C.J 's . WRX Bugeye home brew - Chat thread

Looking very good matey.

[C. J.]

[Mortster]

Coilovers *cough* Coilovers...

And you got a plan for this grill? Its the same as you have already?

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Mortster

Coilovers *cough* Coilovers...

And you got a plan for this grill? Its the same as you have already?

Think coilovers will have to wait as gone abit quiet on the work front
Yep have a plan for the grill it wont be staying like it is for long

[C. J.]

Also forgot to say that i change plugs to 8'S from 7'S which gave another 10 bhp plus a little tweet on timing

[Granby]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Also forgot to say that i change plugs to 8'S from 7'S which gave another 10 bhp plus a little tweet on timing

Interesting as i've just put 8's in mine

[Tyler]

Love it CJ very impressive stuff.....

[C. J.]

Its in bits again !
Turbo spun 180 degrees on outlet removing 32" or 80 cm of tubing , Moved header tank to bulkhead to lower intake temp .
Water crossover pipe off as helicoil ordered as one of the 6mm bolts has pulled its self out .
Fuel reg & purge valve moved and deyellowed some of the pipework to black

[Justin]

It never stops, lol

[C. J.]

Only because i get bored easy !

[C. J.]

Couple of pics of compressor wheel spun and new fuel rails & lines

[Hongkongfooi]

Looking good....does twisting it make any difference to performance?

[Greig]

looks quality, thanks for the fuel lines, have ou any more photo's of the fuel rail connections and the feed and return connections? Thanks

[Tyler]

I love it C.J... Keep the posts with pic's coming...

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Hongkongphooey

Looking good....does twisting it make any difference to performance?

Well it removed 33" of 63mm pipe so would hope so but will find out on the 19th
Also moved the header tank to bulkhead

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Greig

looks quality, thanks for the fuel lines, have ou any more photo's of the fuel rail connections and the feed and return connections? Thanks

In what way ?

[stig this]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Well it removed 33" of 63mm pipe so would hope so but will find out on the 19th
Also moved the header tank to bulkhead

looking good as normal c. will you have to get a map tweek for this ??? it`s got to spool up quicker now aswell surely good work i would not have taken an angle grinder to my new turbo lol ............ i`d let you do it

[C. J.]

yep tweek on 19th for all of the above & hope the spool comes down a couple of hundred revs

[Greig]

Originally Posted by C. J.

In what way ?

Just checking if the returns to the pressure regulator go on the ends of the fuel rails nearest the bulkhead? thanks

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Greig

Just checking if the returns to the pressure regulator go on the ends of the fuel rails nearest the bulkhead? thanks

doesnt matter which end as long as both go to either FPR or Filter

[Greig]

Originally Posted by C. J.

doesnt matter which end as long as both go to either FPR or Filter

Thanks

[C. J.]

Homemade splitter what do you think ?

Cracking job mate, looks the doggies dangledowns

[simonairheadz]

where did you get the perspex?didnt you end up with some tie bars from ratty?

[C. J.]

no tie bars from ratty
builders merchant

[C. J.]

it was just for a giggle still have it for special occasions !

[Mortster]

Is that a smaller number plate too? Or are my eyes getting old?

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Mortster

Is that a smaller number plate too? Or are my eyes getting old?

no that would be illegal !

[Steve_PPP]

splitter looks mean

hope it doesn't snow again soon though!

[Mortster]

Has the car got bigger then?

[SpecB]

He's had to widen the body to fit all the power in!

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

He's had to widen the body to fit all the power in!

lol
Still waiting on a email on that one !

[stig this]

mind the speed bumps fella ............ still looking good me likes

[Jolly Green Monster]

Looking good.
When you say moved purge solenoid do you mean to the bin?
No need with simtek to keep it

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

Looking good.
When you say moved purge solenoid do you mean to the bin?
No need with simtek to keep it

Thought you said i need it
Well i'll take it off and add it to the land fill !

[C. J.]

Jollied again and signiture edited !
Thats it as the engine block wont take any more
Open to sensibale offers on a long or short block 2.5 !

[Granby]

Good figures though, is it just the intercooler pipework thats different or did you change anything else

[C. J.]

That would be telling !

Lets just say jenny had some thing to do with it ;0)

Top figures again mate and agonisingly close to the magical 500 club.

[Granby]

Originally Posted by C. J.

That would be telling !

Lets just say jenny had some thing to do with it ;0)

Good man, shes a very nice person

[Dyney]

Nah, she's a bit too in to the chemicals for me!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh, with it now, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no moooooore!

[simonairheadz]

what happens when you reach 500?
do you get your own urinal lol

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

what happens when you reach 500?
do you get your own urinal lol

Nope, just a good pat on the back and congratulations.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

what happens when you reach 500?
do you get your own urinal lol

Wont be going in 500's ,will go straight to 600 so wont find out!

[simonairheadz]

how often have you had the car on a track to enjoy it,have a track day at oulton pk coming up if your interested

yhpm about Oulton.

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

how often have you had the car on a track to enjoy it,have a track day at oulton pk coming up if your interested

Mate, I appreciate what you are saying 100%. Thats why I have stopped at where I am. It's still very drivable at just over 400bhp and I love it.

But, it's all about choices and people who go that extra mile deserve a bit of credit for doing so IMHO.

Horses for courses and all that

[simonairheadz]

noooooooooo what i asked is whats it like on track,how much fun is it to drive being able to put the power down,personally i would love to feel a big bhp scoobie on track,been in lots of other powerfull cars on track but never in one like my own!
and oulton pk is i think possibly the best road/feel track out there.

[C. J.]

Would not be interested as already have several days & speed trails book through out the year at different tracks & could not budget for any more or the time away from the family . As far as what i do to my car what has it got to do with you !

[C. J.]

Couple of bits fitted today
Oil cooler with stat and a KS3 nock monitor

[simonairheadz]

where did the oil cooler go?

[C. J.]

On the car

[simonairheadz]

thanks for that info.
just wondered where it went

[Granby]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Couple of bits fitted today
Oil cooler with stat and a KS3 nock monitor

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

where did the oil cooler go?

Originally Posted by C. J.

On the car

fpmsl

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Granby

fpmsl

At least some one has a sence of humour

[simonairheadz]

sence=sense lol

[Chris]

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

sence=sense lol

Oh lord here we go again.

Originally Posted by Chris

Oh lord here we go again.

Looks that way

I will be keeping an eye on where this goes

[simonairheadz]

its gone lol,by pm,but my kind offer was declined.

[simonairheadz]

just wanted to know if the oil cooler was mounted in the front or within the bonnet scoop area?as to getting the best direct cooling.
as planning this myself

Maybe Chris will post a reply and a pic. I would like to know as well to be honest.

[C. J.]

Only a muppet would put it were the oe intercooler goes as it will drain every time the car is switched off . have mounted in the place the a/c rad goes as dont have one . pics not doing those any more . only put on thread to keep track for my own records not for pat on back etc

Chill time guys please.

[Granby]

Originally Posted by C. J.

Only a muppet would put it were the oe intercooler goes as it will drain every time the car is switched off . have mounted in the place the a/c rad goes as dont have one . pics not doing those any more . only put on thread to keep track for my own records not for pat on back etc

Think they only asked where did you put it, i've also been wondering if i was to fit a oil cooler where it should go, shame your not putting pics up though as they are always helpful and can give other members ideas

ps...suppose i will have to have a sneak look at your car sunday and find out

[simonairheadz]

Originally Posted by worzel

Chill time guys please.

chill..........im the king of cool lol

[Jolly Green Monster]

just please keep a close eye on the oil lines as they pass over headers Chris

Simon

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster

just please keep a close eye on the oil lines as they pass over headers Chris

Simon

Will do and put them in heat sheild .
Will be changing the route to micks way shortly

[Anger]

Only muppets like TSL ?

Oh and Zen rebuilt Andy's on Surrey and guess what ... put it back where the oe intercooler was

[simonairheadz]

thats why i asked,ive seen a few with it there,also i thought james grd showed me a pic once of one there,just interested in the best fitment place,as a mechanic(cossie nut)has offered me his as he owes me a favour,and is also supplying the fitments and fitting it,he asked me to find out where scooby owners felt its best fitment was as to look at the choices(jgm,he mentioned too about placement of the lines,allthough he has aviation hydrolic lines on it at the moment which could withstand very high temps externally without a rise inside)

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Anger

Only muppets like TSL ?

Oh and Zen rebuilt Andy's on Surrey and guess what ... put it back where the oe intercooler was

I know and can't understand why !
Oil is heavy and will drain , once its filled up not a problem where it is but on start up it will have some starvation of oil

[Anger]

Yeah i get what your saying, but you dont need the cooler from cold and by the time its upto temperature and you need it, the oil should be back in the cooler by then shouldnt it ?

or have i got it wrong as thats how ive always seen it, got me thinking of what you said tho about the oil draining

If this is any help ive seen them mounted to the right side of the f/bumper. Useing the spotlight position for air stream. One other mounted to the ns/iner wing & ducting from the spotlight area.

[simonairheadz]

i had a new beetle 1.8t that was a AMD developement car (260 bhp)with a bigger turbo/intercooler.
that had an oil cooler on the passengers side front fog area too!
but i have some pictures of subaru's with them in th OE intercooler space,taking all the cool air from the scoop(and they were race prep cars)
maybe james will post on this.

[Granby]

Originally Posted by Anger

Yeah i get what your saying, but you dont need the cooler from cold and by the time its upto temperature and you need it, the oil should be back in the cooler by then shouldnt it ?

or have i got it wrong as thats how ive always seen it, got me thinking of what you said tho about the oil draining

Thats correct, the oil wont be going to the cooler when its cold, the only thing that worries me is when the stat opens how long will it take for the oil to reach the cooler and back??

[Anger]

ive never run one and never had any problems... Stat that is

[Anger]

My RA was built by Autosportif with no money spared and they didnt see fit to add a stat and the oil was in the mid 70's most of the time

My current newage has a full spec c oil cooler set up and they have seen the need to fit a stat, but at the mo it sits in the mid 70's unless sitting in traffic...

[Granby]

Can't see any point in not fitting a stat, the oil doesn't need cooling when its cold, its no different from the cooling system

[Anger]

What Zen fit

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Granby

Can't see any point in not fitting a stat, the oil doesn't need cooling when its cold, its no different from the cooling system

It didnt take that long to get up to temp on my RA without... if any thing the spec C one with seams to be taking longer to get upto temp for some reason

Not sure why lol

[Anger]

Originally Posted by MrX???

Like I say, 'overlooked by most people who fit them'.

Thing is with oil is it has an optimal working temperature, or at least an optimal range. To enable the oil to remain within these optimal temps the best way to regulate it is to use a 'stat'.

Im guessing that as it was built purely for track use and having gauges in the car they didnt see it as a must

[simonairheadz]

cheers peeps think we will probabley go this route as it seams an easy enough placement

[simonairheadz]

[QUOTE=MrX???;40824]Thats the point with where this thread has gone

theres a distinction to how each car is used, there no 'right or wrong'

on a 'working car' like yours the cooling would be needed most of the time and as such probably negates the need for a 'stat'.

The issue raised about where to fit it, is at best a pointless argument. So long as its fitted correctly in the location of choice there should be no issues.

Its a shame we can't see where Chris has fitted his, because i'm sure by the response people are interested!


The Zen ones fine the only 'issue' is the vibration one as its fixed to the engine



and that was all i wanted to know lol,anyway thanks all for your input

[Justin]

Guys regarding oil coolers and mounting etc

The oil filter take off for the oil cooler is pretty much last in line before it returns to sump, so even if it does drain upon switch off there won't be any air 'pumped' round the engine becaus it is all post the high pressure side. (a bit like the oil return pipe from turbo, never sees the pressure you read on your gauge).

Also the stat takeoff for the cooler is never fully closed when cold, it is partailly open always to allow some circulation.


Another note CJ, I've just read whole thread, you have a 333 pump in tank already and it can be used as an external, so if you're happy with that then stick the 255 back in and use the 333 from swirlpot, no need to buy another pump

[C. J.]

255 sold & pick up pipe cut to mount 333 hence the 044 type pump
P.s. yes i know the stat is never close but its not worth the chance

[Justin]

[C. J.]

Not a performance enhancement this time but a performance safe gaurd
As the whole idea behind me buying a car for track days was behind me buying the scoob a swirl pot was in order before brands the first circuit of hopefully many !
so i got a pump houseing and set about putting -6 fitting on to it and the head ache of how to install swirl pot , bosch 044 pump and 30amp relay. this is what happened





The idea behind the box is being able to through things in the boot with out and worry of things effecting the set up

[Anger]

Looking good mate and a good idea with the protection

[Steve_PPP]

tidy job!

not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me

Nice job better safe than sorry.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

tidy job!

not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me

two pumps
oe intank fills the swirl pot
swirl pot feeds the external pump
external pump feeds the engine
Reason stops fuel starvation
Fuel starvation = fd engine

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

tidy job!

not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me

He's greedy one 255 in the tank aswell

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

tidy job!

not quite sure whats going on there, other than you've mounted the fuel pump outside the fuel tank!??! i'll never make a mechanic me

Just think of it as a 'Flux-Capacitor'. You watch what happens when CJ reached 88mph......

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Nige

He's greedy one 255 in the tank aswell

just an oe one for now

[Steve_PPP]

cheers for the explanation, makes sense now

[C. J.]

Not just for high power good for oe power too

Get it over to the Ring with us there is still time & a room is available

[Scott.T]

Is that the fuel return going back into the swirlpot.
Is there a logical reason for this or can it just retrun direct to the tank.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Nige

Get it over to the Ring with us there is still time & a room is available

Going to spa instead full day on track on the 4th oct . money will only go so far

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Is that the fuel return going back into the swirlpot.
Is there a logical reason for this or can it just retrun direct to the tank.

Think you would be better off asking that on 22B
Just piped it as every one else does on there