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Old 17-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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Default 'X' Plate Classic - Rise of the Silver Surfer

As some of you know I have had this car for several years (8 years in fact), and sold it back in April 2011.
Having now re-purchased the car to keep as a 2nd vehicle I thought I would run through it's history and add further info as it develops.

As purchased, totally standard 'X' plate UK Spec (Dutch Import).
3 years old with 15,600miles on the clock :


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Prodrive ST2 Alloys


Prodrive WR Spoiler
Colour Coded Skirts



STi 6 Front Lip


Some of you may recognise the chap in this photo. Taken at Pendine Sands Wales


Calipers Painted :


Whiteline ARB :


TSL Grp 'N' Rear box & Drop Links


Gauges :
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Old 17-10-2012, 09:26 PM
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Another set of ST2's but this time in Gold
They didn't last long as didn't like the Silver/Gold mix

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Old 17-10-2012, 09:27 PM
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The Wheel Fettish continues, this time with Prodrive P-WRC's in 18's




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Old 17-10-2012, 09:34 PM
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1st Brake upgrade.
From Subaru 4-Pots to Comp-Brake 4-pots and 330mm 2-piece Rotors





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Old 17-10-2012, 09:36 PM
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Compomotive MO's, these didn't last long due to a poor refurb by Spit'N'Polish.
I wasn't happy with the finish, so sold them to Anger (some peoples standards are lower )

Was trying to get a wheel with better caliper clearance due to a pending 2nd Brake upgrade.

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Old 17-10-2012, 10:44 PM
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bet your glad its back thats some serious effort put in !! must have missed it
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Next set of wheels that would give better caliper clearances

Prodrive P-FF7's 8x18 ET51 (a tight fit on a Classic)


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STi 8 Intercooler Modification & STi Strut Brace :
More details here : http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...hread.php?t=17

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STi 8 Brembo Front/Rear Brakes :
Was one of the 1st in the country to fit both front & Rears
More Details here : http://www.southeastscoobies.co.uk/v...hread.php?t=21
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Old 17-10-2012, 11:33 PM
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Due to a split Turbo hose, took the oppurtunity to paint the inlet manifold, as it had to come off to replace the hose.





A few more polished goodies appeared over time, along with a Fuelab Fuel Pressure Regulator.
By this time the car is running a VF28 Turbo / Apexi ECU with the Injectors max'd.

A large number of the standard fixings being replaced with stainless and a bit of powder coat on header tank and various brackets.
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Apexi Power Intake fitted (custom cold intake & heatshield):
This released approx 30BHP over the standard Airbox (running a Green Filter). Car lept from 305BHP to 335BHP, once I'd adjusted the map to run with the Apexi Intake

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to be continued......
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Did the new owner change anything while they had it?
Looking good as allways
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Old 18-10-2012, 07:54 AM
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Didn't you buy a set of wheels from joni at The Grand?
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A very nice looking example there fella.........
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Old 18-10-2012, 09:19 AM
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Did the new owner change anything while they had it?
Looking good as allways
The guy that purchased it from me managed to spin up No.3 big end within a few weeks and also buckled 2 alloys.
Thankfully this then took it off the road for about 5 months.
The rebuild used :

STi Version 8 Conrods
STi Version 9 Nitrided Crankshaft
ACL Race Main & Big End Bearings
Modine oil cooler
New MY99 MAF
New NGKPFR7B Spark Plugs
All new Gaskets and Seals used
Cambelt and all idlers, tensioners replaced with kit supplied by Lateral Performance during rebuild.
New Exedy pink uprated clutch fitted & lightened flywheel when Engine was out.
Invoice for all parts from Lateral Performance available
Invoice from Tim Farmer for Labour available

Also fitted are STi pedals and Mats

RR plots from Clive Athowe after re-build on running in map at 224BHP and post run-in at 330BHP.
It was recorded at 335BHP in my ownership, so still performing well.

The replacment alloys are quite kerbed, so they will get a refurb at some point soon.

The car then sold soon after rebuild and has spent the rest of the time with a real car enthusiast who has many cars, inc a Cosworth RS500.
Mine was just one of his collection, Hence it has done very little miles since leaving me 18 months ago.
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Old 18-10-2012, 09:20 AM
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Didn't you buy a set of wheels from joni at The Grand?
IIRC it was a Prodrive Backbox.
It was a bit of a strange experience asking to see the manager of the Grand and waiting in the rather plush Hotel Bar, only to then meet Joni and stroll out with an exhaust pipe.
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:25 AM
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I'd like some ST2's now.

Glad you have it back, and we'll see it back to former glory
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A great history there Scott!!! That car is meant to be with you!! (As the wagon is with me)

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A great history there Scott!!! That car is meant to be with you!! (As the wagon is with me)
Silversurfers and Subarmans and the best conditioned classics I know,

they are certainly a credit to you both.
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+1 for the St2's - They just look so right and in proportion on your car.. PFF7's nice as well though.
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I have some but they're staying on my car , just need some center caps
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Silversurfers and Subarmans and the best conditioned classics I know,

they are certainly a credit to you both.

an iv seen a couple of scoobs
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So did u get back at good price or u paid more for what u sold it to get it back cos it does look nice
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Must be the cleanest classic I've seen. Certainly the best one I've seen. Well done you for getting it back. Tomma how much for my old Bugeye?
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So did u get back at good price or u paid more for what u sold it to get it back cos it does look nice
Got it back for £500 less then I sold it for
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STi Interior fitted :

From This :



To this :

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Time for a suspension and wheel arch refresh.....

KYB AGC Shocks
Eibach Springs
Re-Undersealed
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Oh... and just noticed the whiteline drop link had been replaced with PowerFlex Ally ones.
You'll have to excuse me missing a few mods or not documenting absolutley everything
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New SES flags.....
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After a long search I finally found a set of Prodrive Bilsteins.
Check out the difference in damper/strut diameter !!!!!




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JapBash 2010

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Well that pretty much covers where I am today, although it will take a touch of effort to get it back to where it was in 2009/2010. Not too much though........and really looking forward to spending a bit more time on it.
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This was my first viewing of it prior to re-purchase....
I know it's sad but it was a little emotional as I walked into the wharehouse.....


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bet beaulieu car museum would love your car.
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that is one fine example scott bet you were glad to get your baby back.
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Lovely looking car Scott Out of interest, Japbash 09 if you were runner-up (yours looking so clean) who won if you can remember?
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Lovely looking car Scott Out of interest, Japbash 09 if you were runner-up (yours looking so clean) who won if you can remember?
A Skyline R33 IIRC
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never to leave your hands again I now bet. Good to see it back
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I just can't help myself.......and my wheel fettish.
Set No. 7 on it's way.

I was only after some tyres.........

Hope to get them next week this then bides me some time to get the PFF-7's refurbed later rather then sooner.
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Come on give us a clue as to what they are or do we have to wait.......

Would like a new set for mine in the new year, possible 18's
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These in Gunmetal :
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Very nice, been gandering at a set on evil bay new with a very similar design. Good choice for big caliper clearance.
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Very nice Scott. Though, I have always liked the prodrives on your classic. It looks just right. Be interesting to see how these look aswell though
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Very nice Scott. Though, I have always liked the prodrives on your classic. It looks just right. Be interesting to see how these look aswell though
Don't worry the Prodrive PFF7's won't be going far....well only as far as Lepsons for a refurb.
The tyres are shot and the wheels are scuffed up and I can't afford to do both at the moment.
The Altec's came up for a good price and include nearly new tyres, so foolish to turn them down. They are also a wheel I've looked at before, so would like to see how they look.
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The Altec's came up for a good price and include nearly new tyres, so foolish to turn them down. They are also a wheel I've looked at before, so would like to see how they look.
What size are they?
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Took the scoob out today... well reversed it out the garage.
Only to check the condition of the tyres, to be sure my purchase of the Altec's was not wasted .

Refitted the rear bench, after my friendly MOT'er spotted it was loose.
Turned out that the guy that bought the car from me had fitted an uprated fuel pump but obviously had no clue how the back seat was held in. He managed to snap the hooks off the bulkhead where the rear backrest clips in....muppet. Had to do a bit of bulkhead bending and cutting to get it to hook back on, but not 100% happy wth result.
Will see how it goes, but I might have to rivet a bracket on or self tap some new hooks of some sort on there.

I keep finding the odd little niggle that the guy managed to do, I'm just glad I got the car back before he really fooked it.

I know there only little things but he didn't have it long. I think all these were done by the guy that initially bought it from me who had it for 5 months, then sold it to Nick who I got it back from :

Dry glue on the centre console
Dry glue on the top of dash where he tried to re-fit the corner pod. Thankfully it's under the pod.
Dash scratched through vinyl by corner pod
Carpet clip missing that retains the drivers floor mat. Mats were replaced but for some reason decided to rip the clip out of the carpet (has anyone got one ??)
All 4 wheels scuffed
Rear bumper replaced including number plate bullb holders, brackets and screws with what looks like new. Checking under it during the MOT nothing else is damaged and the rest of the rear end is still original.

Hopefully I won't find too much more.

What I have been able to confirm though is that the Apexi ECU map is still the mine as it matches the last map I put on in my laptop.
Despite it spending time at Clive Atthowe for a remapping and RR session.
Apparently it's been remapped to run on normal unleaded !!!! No doubt he was charged for the privilege.
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What size are they?
Not sure if they are 7.5 or 8 width but 18 diameter.
Running my correct tyre size of 225/35 x 18
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These in Gunmetal :
look similar to those on your hawk
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look similar to those on your hawk
Indeed they do, although 1 spoke less.
I would of kept the Hawk ones but 114 PCD was a good enough reason to sell.
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Ultra lites arrived today, well packaged and tyres have plenty of tread.

Paint is a little flakey but I knew that, and not too worried for a 2nd winter set that can soon be re-painted. No scuffs whatsoever.

However one tyre has a nice nail in it, close to the sidewall so will get it checked tomorrow
The scooby breaker is dead gutted. He thinks it's from some racking he has just assembled and couldn't be more apologetic. If things all work out I will post up details as the guy deserves a mention for his services and praise for his attitude.
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Ultra lites arrived today, well packaged and tyres have plenty of tread.

Paint is a little flakey but I knew that, and not too worried for a 2nd winter set that can soon be re-painted. No scuffs whatsoever.

However one tyre has a nice nail in it, close to the sidewall so will get it checked tomorrow
The scooby breaker is dead gutted. He thinks it's from some racking he has just assembled and couldn't be more apologetic. If things all work out I will post up details as the guy deserves a mention for his services and praise for his attitude.
Look forward to seeing pictures once they're fitted Scot
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However one tyre has a nice nail in it, close to the sidewall so will get it checked tomorrow
The scooby breaker is dead gutted. He thinks it's from some racking he has just assembled and couldn't be more apologetic. If things all work out I will post up details as the guy deserves a mention for his services and praise for his attitude.
Had it checked today at Victoria tyres and it's scrap. The screw is too close to the sidewall for a repair especially as it's a 35 profile.
Just waiting for confirmation from the seller on the final way forward. But hat's off to him so far, he could of adopted such a different attitude.
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Had it checked today at Victoria tyres and it's scrap. The screw is too close to the sidewall for a repair especially as it's a 35 profile.
Just waiting for confirmation from the seller on the final way forward. But hat's off to him so far, he could of adopted such a different attitude.
Refund recieved to cover the cost to replace the tyre, so A1 service provided from http://www.polepositionuk.co.uk/index.php
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Pole position, are these the people building a monster 2 door purchased from GRD? Looks like it will be a proper weapon.
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Refund recieved to cover the cost to replace the tyre, so A1 service provided from http://www.polepositionuk.co.uk/index.php
These things happen, it's the way they get sorted that counts.. Sounds like a top bloke
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have you put on your new wheels yet scott,any pics
No mate, they are all prepped and ready to paint but lack of dry weather and poor health over christmas prevented any progress.
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Well with all the Christmas Illness and the damp weather at the moment I have only managed to prime up the wheels.
Got all 4 primed Friday afternoon hoping to do the top coat at the weekend but although not raining the ground and air was pretty damp all weekend, so it'll have to wait.


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You must really get through decks of cards
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Nice job there looking forward to seeing what these look like on, wonder where the card trick idea came from...........whistle.
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Nice job there looking forward to seeing what these look like on, wonder where the card trick idea came from...........whistle.
Yeh that trick of yours is a good one. Makes masking up nice and easy and so far far one £0.75p pack has done 4 wheels front and back.

I did splash out another £0.75p for another pack for the top coats & laqeur.
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Yeh that trick of yours is a good one. Makes masking up nice and easy and so far far one £0.75p pack has done 4 wheels front and back.

I did splash out another £0.75p for another pack for the top coats & laqeur.
Lol, awesome. Just love the fact that once the paint has dried you can go out there with a cuppa in one hand and remove the cards with the other effortless and stress free then stand back and admire your work!
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Lol, awesome. Just love the fact that once the paint has dried you can go out there with a cuppa in one hand and remove the cards with the other effortless and stress free then stand back and admire your work!
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the wheels look good in primer scott,put them on the car and take a pic
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Well, finally got round to finishing the painting of the wheels yesterday. Spent the afternoon in the garage with a heater and a hairdryer. Probably inhaled far too much spray paint while at it too.......

All set to put them on this morning, only to find they don't fit....DOH!!!!!.....

They fowl the Brembo calipers on the front.
They could be spaced, but I am on the limit of offset on the Classic already on 225's and an ET51 on the Prodrive PFF7's. These Ultralites are ET48, so no chance of spacing these without fowling the rear arch or getting them rolled.

So they will be going up for sale, with the proceed's going towards getting my Prodrive PFF7's refurbed.






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Bugger. That's a shame Scott. They look fantastic though and sure they will be snapped up
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`Well, finally got round to finishing the painting of the wheels yesterday. Spent the afternoon in the garage with a heater and a hairdryer.`

Nice job there Scott so talented , able to paint and do your hair at the same time
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They look very tasty!!!!! Nice finish.
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That's a shame they don't fit mate, they look great (and the paint job...)
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thats a shame scott,might sound silly but couldnt you change the brakes.like the ap ones on steveppp car.
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My APs would go behind them, but it's a lot of money to spend just to make the wheels fit!
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thats a shame scott,might sound silly but couldnt you change the brakes.like the ap ones on steveppp car.
K-Sports Would have loved APs, but too much cash

Think the Brembo's suit Scott's car - they're far more in keeping with the OEM look he's got going on, as they were Subaru supplied (even if it was on newage).
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thats a shame scott,might sound silly but couldnt you change the brakes.like the ap ones on steveppp car.
I agree with Steve_PPP, the Brembo's are all part of the car and the OE style of modification I'm after. Plus I was one of the 1st in the UK to fit them on the rear. Infact I think I was the 2nd, but the first to adopt the use of the Newage WRX disk and 170mm handbrake drum rather then the STi disk which at the time needed lining for the handbrake.

They also work very well and it is one of the best modifications I have done. The weighting and pedal feel is alot better then the Hawkeye was, even after I upgraded the disks, pads and brake lines on the Hawk to similar spec. It's probably something to do with the lighter Classic
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I was coming round to the idea of using spacers to get the Ultralites to fit.
I had worked out I had 3mm track each side to work with to keep it to the same total track width as the PFF-7's, and prevent any more arch clearance issues.

However, I have just confirmed they have to go after a little trial this evening with a handfull of washers.

To clear the Brembo's by 2.5mm I needed a 9mm shim with the Ultralites.
The hub centre bore is only approx 10mm, so the wheel would be sitting on 1mm of hub. Therefore hubcentric spacers with an extended centre bore and longer studs would be required.
This is then getting silly and already 6mm over my desired track width.

Comparing to the PFF-7's
Without shims the PFF-7's clear the Brembo's by 11mm.

So in total the difference in clearance between an Ultralite (7.5" ET48) and PFF-7 (8" ET51) is 17.5mm which is quite shocking.

It just goes to show how important a wheel style is when selecting an offset.
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Thinking of going a darker colour when I refurb the PFF7's, found this and it's pretty much what I was thinking (no it's not my car photoshop'd)





How it looks on Bright Flitter colours PFF7's :

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I think they look better darker if I'm honest.

Liking the small vent bonnet scoop too! Hmmm
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I'm not so sure as it takes some of the definition out of it and makes them look smaller.
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Will look good either way.
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I'm not so sure as it takes some of the definition out of it and makes them look smaller.
Mine will be just what the Doc ordered,
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i think your car looks perfect as it is scott dont do it
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I'd go 1/2 way between the two, send me a side on pic and I'll run through a few colours on PS if you like?
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looks very nice that if ur not 100% why not a pair of rims from a scrap yard n im have a play with the colours?? im sure me mate dave would sort you out? d.n.motorsport/spares
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The the old mans spare set on yours Scott.
Tried them today Steve, and they are quite light in colour compared to the Bright Flitter. Which was a suprise, wth WR1 colour looked too silver against my paintwork.
Also found out I can't run 235's as they hit the rear strut (not that I was going to anyway).

Tried Big 'E's special PFF7 that's darker with a light lip, and quite liked it.
I will see what Lepsons have to offer, colour wise, and make a choice on the day. If there isn't anything I like I will get them to colour match the Bright Flitter.

Originals :




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Bright Flitter for me. Looks sharp and goes well with the colour. I always think dark wheels are great for hiding muck, scrapes etc, but you cant beat nice shiney wheels when they are clean. They really set the car off. I always thought my gold alloys when they were spotlessly clean looked better than when they were painted grey.

Big E is running some pretty low profile tyres on those rims
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Getting ready for the refurbed alloys, sourced a set of PFF7's resin centre caps to replace the coroded originals.
Originals are now unavailable and the last set for PFF7's I saw on ebay were over £100 !!!!!

These are resin domed copies that I got an Ebay supplier to knock up to my specification. Very pleased with the quality and price at £10.99.

The 'P' is a little larger then the originals, but for £10.99 I'll live with it.

These are 60mm to fit the face of the PFF7's caps for the 58mm centre bore, but he can reproduce in any size.
The plan is to peel the original metal covers off the plastic caps and replace with these.
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I am interested, if he makes them up could the size of the "P" be reduced slightly?
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I am interested, if he makes them up could the size of the "P" be reduced slightly?
Probably.....
When I get my wheels off next I'll photo side by side.......
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Havent you got a brand new original set of these already?
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