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Old 09-01-2010, 11:44 AM
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Well....wouldn't normally venture out but it's Olivers B'day tomorrow and we are clean out of food.

Was going to hike up to Sainsbury's with rucksak, but as snow and wind keep getting up and I didn't fancy it, so I ventured on foot down to the A21 to see how clear.

Wasn't that clear but traffic was very light so thought I would go for it in the car.

The Seat Altea was still covered in snow and has been since early this week...thought 4WD, the Scoob and nigh empty roads would be alot more fun.

Going was fine with very light trafffic....only 2 Morrisons and 1 Sainsbury lorry stuck on the A21 on the hill !!!

Returning was different, everyone was out and que's had built up back towards home.
due to this decided to go my normal route but more challenging route up Ledsham Ave...this is quite a steep road but tracks were already cut through, so thought someone else has made it, so lets go for it.

Things went well and I said to my son "this is easy....yeee harr!!!!! thank god for 4WD".

Then about half way up it stopped, and started to spin all 4 wheels.
I had a parked car on my left and when I stopped and put the foot on brake the car started to slide backwards towards the main A21 and the nose of the car also swung round about 45 Degree's towards parked cars....Oops !!!! not good I thought.

I managed to get the arse of car pointed into another close but the front then came round even further.......then it stopped phew!!!!!!

Reversed cars back wheels up onto pavement in order to level thing out a bit.......

I then managed to turn the car round and thought about abandoning.....but nowwhere to park safely and didn't fancy leaving the car behind.....

So pointed it back down Ledsham and towards the A21, 1st gear and hope.
Running down hill...well sliding down hill it was a case of try 1st gear, try not to touch brakes...instinct then has you touching the brakes as sliding speed builds up...car goes left...car goes right...car goes sideways.

Arse end kiss's the kerb...bloody low profiles take no prisoners......crunch a bit of alloy gets left behind.

At this point I am on the horn warning people on the A21 I'm coming.

Thankfully I managed to reduce the slide and speed enough to stop 10ft before the junction.

What amazed me was I was clearly sliding, on the horn, yet drivers on the A21 just seems to look at you and continue..thank god I stopped.

Alloy has a inch long gash on the rim, but not too bad considering the situation and the same rim I have hit twice before.
A bit of my special mix of Ford champagne gold and Vauxhall graphite (bloody Bright Flitter PFF7's, why didn't I get a silver alloys), and they will be fine.

Thankful tho', as it could of been alot worse, with the gradient of that hill it could of had me flying across the A21 collecting a few cars and potentially into what are very steep gardens on the other side.

Take it easy out there...and don't take 4WD for granted.

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Old 09-01-2010, 11:59 AM
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Mate, not good.Although sounds like you got away with minimal damage thank god.
Land rover about the only thing you can truly rely on.

I have just caught train from uckfield to erdige, set off to walk to eridge park and had only been walking 5 mins up hill, guy stops in range rover and offers me a lift,pulled away like it was on tarmac, very impressed seeing as there were cars littered on the a26.
What a gent i thought.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:08 PM
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Well what can i say but Snap,but i cam off worse
How do i find out the size of my alloy?
Is it stamped or is it a case of measuring it?
If not any 1 got a nice set of wheels for sale??
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:12 PM
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Hastings is shocking, i was out on Sedlescombe road at about 8.45am this morning,
Had already been from Westfield to Battle Rd to pick a mate up, then into Battle, then out to Johns Cross, up the A21 then along the A265 to Etchingham and back through Battle, down Battle rd.
Had to get back to Westfield from Battle rd,got upto Sedlescombe rd and like you road was blocked by arctics.
Managed to get up Harrow Lane,
As i type this just started snowing again.
A28 in Westfield is crap!
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:15 PM
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Very nasty nick.....(wasn't he on Big Brother).

Wheel size and offset and stud pattern will be stamped on the on the inside, normally on the back of one of the spokes.

It should have, I expect : 7.5x18, ET48 (offset) and PCD 100 somewhere......

What make are they ? I think I know, but on tip of tongue. They were quite a popular wheel a few years back when classics 1st started fitting 18's.

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Old 09-01-2010, 12:20 PM
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Tecnomagnesio DETROIT
and yeah just what i need, expensive bloody month,
New MAF, New clutch and now gotta run on a poxy space saver!!!
Think ill save the embarasment n drive the wifes car for a while!
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:29 PM
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I had this yesterday before the new lot fell.Took me 20 min's to get back in to my road sheet ice all 4 spinning then it just slide backwards in the end put it in to a slide where i was looking out the passenger window and got up the hill Today i can not even get off the drive and the outside temp sensor is saying -2.A friend who has a Toyota Surf is are only way out the Estate i live on and people are just dumping there cars.They are ploughing the road up to Tesco's.Going to get on of the kids crossers out and try that
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:47 PM
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just spoke to several wheel places,
Guess what Techno mag have gone bust few years back and nowhere stocks em, which basically means 2nd hand one from likes of ebay etc

He did sugest possible repairing of it?
Anyone had this done?
Whats the + n - of it
Or shall i go balls out n order sum new ones?
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:58 PM
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New ones, there are some good deals to be had, I will be later on in the year.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:01 PM
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Gutted for you mate, but could have been much worse. Even 4wd has it limits, and once you start to slide it dont make any difference if its 2wd, rwd, or 4wd there is not allot you can do but hold on tight and hope for the best.!

Scoobs are amazing in this weather, but they have there limits. Went for a long walk earlier down public foot paths and finally popped out on battle road, and it was that bad when I did come out onto battle road, I couldn't immediately tell it was battle road. It looked more like a country lane due to the amount of snow and lack of cars about. Kids were taboganning down the main battle road.

Main roads around hastings are now absoloutley covered and nothing but 4wd are even remotely getting about. Hastings is proper snowed in.

Glad I got my new alloys and shopping yesterday

Got a card for Oliver here but will have to drop it round probably after his birthday now.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:17 PM
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Gutted to hear this news guys. At least no-ones hurt though.

It's not a peice of cake is it, even with 4WD.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:47 PM
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ouch not good mate, at least it was only the alloy, could of been alot worse, hope you get it sorted mate
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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i agree with whats been said - 4wd is useless once you're already sliding! had a few near moments where the back has slid towards the kerb but luckily no damage. I've hit the kerb once but luckily there was a lot of icey snow in the gutter it seems to have cushioned the impact and i got away with it.

If we get more snow tomorrow i can see people still being off work into next week.....
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:47 PM
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Very nasty nick.....(wasn't he on Big Brother).

Wheel size and offset and stud pattern will be stamped on the on the inside, normally on the back of one of the spokes.

It should have, I expect : 7.5x18, ET48 (offset) and PCD 100 somewhere......

What make are they ? I think I know, but on tip of tongue. They were quite a popular wheel a few years back when classics 1st started fitting 18's.
Well inside the wheel it says ET 48, 7jx18h2, PCD (number not readable),
MF28b
Gonna go to a few wheel shops as soon as poss to get em ordered then swap the tyres over as current ones arent available anywhere and 2nd hand ones are like rockin horse doodoos
Man it looks funny on a space saver, on that note does any1 have an old set scooby wheels layying about i could borrow? need to be mobile next week to drop off sum sensors for sum1
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:07 PM
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ET48 and 7x18 sounds about right.
PCD will be 100, or should I say 5x100.

You can go to 8x18 but offset needs to be ET51 min on 225 width tyres.

7.5x18 can get away with ET48 but no lower on 215 width tyres.

RobEvo5 has just picked up another set of wheels, so ping him a PM as he has some 7.5x17 Speedline ST2's you may be able to borrow. He's also just off 'The Ridge' Hastings.
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Sorry Nick -But to be honest with all this snow and talk of curbed alloys. I'm looking to keep my current set on the car gold (St2's), until this snow clears up. They already have a fair few light curb marks and paintwork isn't great. So at the moment I wouldn't be that worried if I picked up any more marks so prefect for my needs for just now.

Once the snow clears I'll put me new alloys on, and was probably going to refurb my old ones at some point or just keep them as track alloys. So sorry but not really available just now.

Ironically I did have a set of stock alloys for ages, and let them go for peanuts a while back because they were in my way...

sorry I can't help on this occassion.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:32 PM
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ET48 and 7x18 sounds about right.
PCD will be 100, or should I say 5x100.

You can go to 8x18 but offset needs to be ET51 min on 225 width tyres.

7.5x18 can get away with ET48 but no lower on 215 width tyres.

RobEvo5 has just picked up another set of wheels, so ping him a PM as he has some 7.5x17 Speedline ST2's you may be able to borrow. He's also just off 'The Ridge' Hastings.
Looking at these will they fit without rub?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1c0f0245bb
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Looking at these will they fit without rub?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1c0f0245bb
I got my Inovit wheels from JSB, really impressed - they delivered when they said they would, and they even phoned me up the day after they were delivered to make sure everything was ok and that they got there safely. Not often you get decent customer service these days!

On a side note, it might be worth looking at the alloys only packages and sourcing tyres elsewhere - thats what i did because the "budget performance" tyres those bundles come with are pretty terrible.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:42 PM
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I got my Inovit wheels from JSB, really impressed - they delivered when they said they would, and they even phoned me up the day after they were delivered to make sure everything was ok and that they got there safely. Not often you get decent customer service these days!

On a side note, it might be worth looking at the alloys only packages and sourcing tyres elsewhere - thats what i did because the "budget performance" tyres those bundles come with are pretty terrible.

JSB ? got a link for webby m8? and yes already got 4 new tyres
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JSB ? got a link for webby m8? and yes already got 4 new tyres
The company on ebay you linked to

They do the same alloys as in your link but without tyres for £394, so you can use the tyres you've already bought.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:40 AM
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lol yeah seen em, gonna use the tyres of my existing alloys as they practically brand new, existing alloys are 7x18 but these are 7.5x18
will they fit?
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what is the actual tyre size you've got now? i think most people use 215 or 225 tyres on 7.5x18, if yours are slightly narrower then they'll still fit but they might look a bit stretched and they'll give you less rim protection from future kerb attacks
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what is the actual tyre size you've got now? i think most people use 215 or 225 tyres on 7.5x18, if yours are slightly narrower then they'll still fit but they might look a bit stretched and they'll give you less rim protection from future kerb attacks
my current size is 215/35/18s need em to be able to fit as all new rubbere n not gona fork out for new ones
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my current size is 215/35/18s need em to be able to fit as all new rubbere n not gona fork out for new ones
Yep, there'll be fine with 215/35's
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ok goin with these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1c0f0245bb


But wht colour?
Black or Gold
Ur opinions please?
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i woulnt go with 18s imo ruins the ride on a classic stick with 17s
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ok goin with these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1c0f0245bb


But wht colour?
Black or Gold
Ur opinions please?

I thought you said you had tyres already to swap onto the new ones??

So surely you can just get this and save £200?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1e59c142fe

I'd go gunmetal over gold personally....
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i woulnt go with 18s imo ruins the ride on a classic stick with 17s
But i already got tyres etc for 18s,
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I thought you said you had tyres already to swap onto the new ones??

So surely you can just get this and save £200?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-Alloy-Wheel...item1e59c142fe

I'd go gunmetal over gold personally....
Yeah lol just used it to show colour, first one i found
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