WTF is going on

Its just awful watching the riods and looting.
I mean wtf is happening.

Have seen on FB that Morster has been caught up in it, hope he is ok.

Im in Brum tonight , its all kicking off.

Grim, Very Grim

[C. J.]

Think his on his way home now .
Think his comments on FB some it up nicely

[herbert]

I'm just watching sky news it's well bad mate

[AndySpecD]

It's ridiculous - it seems it's an excuse for violence and stealing...

Glad he's ok.
Not a nice experience for him

[ralliart didz]

Originally Posted by AndySpecD

It's ridiculous - it seems it's an excuse for violence and stealing...

as andy said.i hope the twats get wots coming 2 them.

[Anger]

I can see the fires from here in Croydon

[Bearo]

Absolute ****ers! Yea my missus says she got smoke in her garden! Her mate who works on Oxford Street is still stuck in the shop because of voilence outside..

[sumo-scooby]

Its all stupid and 80% + of them are kids

[Steve_PPP]

unbelieveable isn't it.

been watching BBC News channel all evening, just sheer destruction for no reason. its almost as if all the idiots out there thing that violence and looting is allowed all of a sudden!

[sumo-scooby]

Anyone caught out there after half 8 being offencive should have all there ****ing fingers cut off

[Mortster]

Originally Posted by sumo-scooby

Its all stupid and 80% + of them are kids

Im home and fine. My windows were smashed with me behind them. The poor police were horribly out numbered.

Its a very sad state, but seeing this happen to my shop and around me, the above is true. But you start saying stuff like that and sadly it opens up a whole other kettle of worms.

Its time to bring in the army. Simple.

Im suprised they havnt called in the water cannons, i just dont get, fook me if it were in pretty much any other country they woukd kick the little f ** k e r s arses

Glad you r ok Nick

[chrisp]

Originally Posted by Crowman

Im suprised they havnt called in the water cannons, i just dont get, fook me if it were in pretty much any other country they woukd kick the little f ** k e r s arses

Glad you r ok Nick

Watching the news the deputy something or other said there are no water cannons in England, they are all in northern Ireland

[sumo-scooby]

Water cannons with a strong tazer would be enough to get then down on the floor then drive them away

[mowglimarks]

respect to the emergency services who must be streched to the limit whilst PM is on holiday!!! wat a joke

[Anger]

Rise of the planet of the chav's ?

[chrisp]

Wander if they are still going to heavily cut the services after this?? ****ed even with the numbers they have

[mowglimarks]

too right ...the first shops they targeted were ladbrokes, jd sports and argos!! they ve emptied curries and debanemhams too i believe!

The have acted too slow and without enough force.
What a f u c k ing discrase

[andy-m]

the thing that realy p1sses me off, is most of these people will be out doing the same tomorrow, or another night. even if they get arrested, they willdo it again.

if someone gets shot in the head, its a bit hard for them to re-offend

[riiidaa]

Looters should be shot on sight

[sumo-scooby]

Originally Posted by andy-m

the thing that realy p1sses me off, is most of these people will be out doing the same tomorrow, or another night. even if they get arrested, they willdo it again.

if someone gets shot in the head, its a bit hard for them to re-offend

Or cut off the fingers as cant steal, hold a knife or fire a gun

[riiidaa]

Seen this map? It's mind-boggling how far it's spread in an evening: http://is.gd/2ogaUT

[Bearo]

Originally Posted by riiidaa

Seen this map? It's mind-boggling how far it's spread in an evening: http://is.gd/2ogaUT

mental. nearly every one i clicked on had at least a fire and looted shops!

just heard a police station is on fire in b'ham.. what next

[rossmarts]

Just a load of scumbags causing trouble in their own area with no reason or desired effect other than causing trouble itself.

Next thing will be all these same people complaining that the area they live in is a ****hole and it isn't fair etc. when they basically do it to themselves.

Just been watching Teresa May sit on the news saying that British policing always relies on good support from the community. Sadly that isn't going to be enough in this case. As long as the people aren't afraid of the police or the consequences then they won't stop. They need to indiscriminantly split some heads open and start to show that if you are ****ing about you will get more than a slap on the wrist.

[chrisp]

She really is out of touch, still defending the 20% cuts and it won't affect front line police, time to get rid of that poor excuse of a home secretary

[lady-turbo-wrx]

Glad you got home safely Mortster

But spoke to Cath last night who was taking the kids to london,was in croydon at the time,but who was still trying to get home at 11 last night....

hope you an the kids are ok x x

Anarchy is the only word that sums it up!

This is not IMHO a government problem, yes they have made swinging cuts which have affected a lot of people, but this would be happening whoever was in charge. Anyone blaming the government for this really ought to get a reality check, because they have obviously lost their minds.

This is purely a class of "British" citizenship with huge personal and cultural issues, lashing out at a weak and hand tied police force and in the name of no cause at all. I'm sorry, but none of these idiots can blame what happened in Tottenham for this, this is mindless violence and grand theft on a huge scale.

These are kids of 14 - 18 years old, with parents who don't give a flying **** what they do or where they are.

It has to be stopped somehow, if the police don't get a grip on this today, even to the point of drafting the army in, then I dread to think what will happen tonight, there will be deaths, but unfortunately they will be from the wrong side of the coin. Get troops mobilized, armed with rubber bullets and riot gear and let them kick the living **** out of these people.

[Anger]

Well the street where my shop is looked like a war zone this morning

[WRX_Paul]

The England V Holland friendly is called off tomorrow

[DukeBoy]

Will be keeping my opinions to myself as I don't think they should be posted on an open forum!!! But I bet most of you are thinking along the same lines.

[Bearo]

theres lots of jokes circulating already, planet of the apes trailer on sky news is a popular one.

edit: i know a lot of builders and sparkys lol

[Bearo]

this one from scoobynet made me chuckle:

'During last night's riots, 2 Irishmen broke into Ladbrokes. They lost 50 quid each.'

[Skullfudge]

Absolute madness.

They need catching, injecting then burying.

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Absolute madness.

They need catching, injecting then burying.

although without the injecting

[Skullfudge]

I tell you what really fooks me off. You can bet that none of them have jobs, they just sit around licking windows etc then create havoc.
Silly Ar5e me works my butt off all year then I find out that I have to pay £ 21,000 in Corporation Tax that no doubt helps feed these fooking idiots.

Thats what pi55es me off !

If I knew some of my 21K went on bullets to get rid of these twats I wouldn't mind so much.

[Bearo]

hopefully most of sussex police have gone up london so we can all go for a nice spirited drive this evening ^_^

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

I tell you what really fooks me off. You can bet that none of them have jobs, they just sit around licking windows etc then create havoc.
Silly Ar5e me works my butt off all year then I find out that I have to pay £ 21,000 in Corporation Tax that no doubt helps feed these fooking idiots.

Thats what pi55es me off !

If I knew some of my 21K went on bullets to get rid of these twats I wouldn't mind so much.

100%

It's these ****ing little ****heads that we pay for year after year, with honest toil and by paying into the system. These little **** eating scrotes then leach off of and generally play the system to their advantage, never giving anything back in return. To say it grips my **** is an understatement.

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh hhhh!

[Bearo]

look at the police just getting rolled over: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

[Dave]

There was a presence up there from Sussex last night, but all properly trained people. Doubt they would put traffic up there, mind you running a few of them over wouldn't do any harm. Quick hose down and send them out again.

I'm on the inside of these cuts and things aren't nice, there's going to be alot of good people moving on as there is significant salary cuts incoming on the support staff side of things.

Any other country would have officers out there with 3ft batons beating them, while we pussy foot around pandering to the scrotes.

I'll be quiet now.

[Mortster]

Originally Posted by DukeBoy

Will be keeping my opinions to myself as I don't think they should be posted on an open forum!!! But I bet most of you are thinking along the same lines.

I saw this first hand, I stood behind my window as a gang of youths smashed it. This is what fuels what people are thinking, but arnt allowed to say it, because we're scared of offending people. I wont wont say what race, just yes, they were all the same colour, I couldnt see any other in a sea of 100+ youths. This is where the real issue lies, but the police have their hands tied.

Im getting fed up of people defending their actions now too.

[Mortster]

Originally Posted by Bearo

look at the police just getting rolled over: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

This is Woolwich, both my stores were completely destroyed, The Game is never going to open again, the Gamestation we cant even get into yet, the damage to the windows and shutter was so extensive.

In all I lost 4 stores ( well not my own, but what I manage ). 2 In Woolwich, Orpington and Croydon Purley Way. The damage done is so bad, the view is we may never may that back on bottom line, so these may stay shut.

Would like to see Cameron have the balls to go full on at the idiots involved and behind these riots....

Think were all behind the Police , Army etc etc going in with plastic bullets and tear gas etc etc, but how long regardless of the damage, harm and suffering that the idiots involved have caused will it be before theres news footage of the poor individuals hurt by a Policeman?

Been too soft on the criminal element for too long now,,,,,, about time things went back to kids having respect for the law and their own surroundings, if it takes a few people being hit with a rubber bullet to the head, to knock sense into people, then so be it.............

[andy-m]

well, unfortunately I wont be in a possition to do this for 3 years at least, but some time in 2014, i am sticking 2 fingers up to the UK and getting out.
If i had some cash stashed away, I would have gone last night.

i've had enough of everyone coming to our country, leeching off our benefits, all the unemployed who dont want to work (and yes I know theres some that do want to), i'm fed up of all the parents that think its the school's job to teach their kids right n wrong, but then go down the school screaming their heads off defending their chavy scum offspring when they get in trouble with the school, n i'm fed up of getting ars3raped by the f'in tax man n then having the govenment give my hard earned cash away !

the mrs is from the republic of ireland, they dont have this kind of crap over there. guess where i'm gonna be living in 3 yrs time !

[Anger]

T mobile shop opposite mine got done on Sunday night and then had a car put through the front last night

Originally Posted by Anger

T mobile shop opposite mine got done on Sunday night and then had a car put through the front last night

and hows your business?

Originally Posted by Dave

Any other country would have officers out there with 3ft batons beating them, while we pussy foot around pandering to the scrotes.

Originally Posted by Mortster

This is Woolwich, both my stores were completely destroyed, The Game is never going to open again, the Gamestation we cant even get into yet, the damage to the windows and shutter was so extensive.

In all I lost 4 stores ( well not my own, but what I manage ). 2 In Woolwich, Orpington and Croydon Purley Way. The damage done is so bad, the view is we may never may that back on bottom line, so these may stay shut.

Sorry to hear this Nick, that's crappy bloody news.



It's very true that the second you raise the comment about the race or creed of these scrotes, you are tagged as racist. The truth is a scrote is a scrote, these ones just all happen to be of the same ethnic origin. And that is not any old comment, it's plain for all to see on the TV feeds. And now you have got a certain ethnic female MP out saying that they are angry youths and virtually justifying the actions of them, absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

[Bearo]

Its started again

[Bearo]

purley way shops and apparently its even in redhill now.. wtf!

[RobEvo5]

Apparantly Hastings, prior meadow has been put on high alert tonight.! So it might even be coming further South.

Madness utter madness.! I don't condone violence, but only solution would appear to be a very heavy hand, arrest lots of people and keep them locked up as long as the law will allow..... Slapped wrists, and the nicey,nicey, polically correct approach just won't work on these people.

[Skullfudge]

Time now 2.00pm and just had a phone call.

Maidstone & Rochester are shutting all shops at 3.00pm with many boarding up windows.
Face Book, Twitter and blackberry messaging has been monitored and Police are expecting trouble.

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

[Bearo]

london road in brighton been hit. Expect it in an area near u imo.

[Anger]

Originally Posted by thepieman

and hows your business?

Lucky my shop was one of the few left a long mate... Still feel for a lot of the business's around me that i have known for years

Its organised crime now... Kids dont pull cash machines out of the wall

[Bearo]

Originally Posted by Anger

Its organised crime now... Kids dont pull cash machines out of the wall

Thats it though isnt it. Nearly every criminal in the country is going to work while we all do the opposite! Lock your cars up safe tonight lads!

[Mortster]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

This is my biggest fear now, everyone taking up arms just to protect their property/family.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Bearo

london road in brighton been hit. Expect it in an area near u imo.

Source?

Lots of information flying about, I can only find stuff saying rumours of damage in Brighton are unfounded.

[andy-m]

Originally Posted by Mortster

This is my biggest fear now, everyone taking up arms just to protect their property/family.

Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that

[fieldy]

just got back from doing a small job in Clapham (Marjorie Grove). on the drive up from brighton i saw cars and shops either burnt or smashed by f*ckers. was just about to leave and got a phone call off a mate of mine who gives me painting and decorating work for Nuffield fitness and leisure. (was Cannons health clubs). he asked if i could pop into Nuffield in Norbury on the way home. bearing in mind that i was only up there a month ago working , i could belive what i saw. the place had been torched last night. most of the downstairs is burnt and soaking wet while the rest of the club is smoked damaged badly. had a chat with the area managers and they cant believe whats happened. this f*cking country is going to hell.......big time.

[Bearo]

People on twitter & facebook saying its kicked off. Local business told to put shutters up by 3pm. Few ppl say works let them go early so they can put shutters up, etc.

I guess probly minor disturbances at the mo but big chance of something happening later by sounds of it.

[fieldy]

Originally Posted by andy-m

Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that

i will protect my family by ALL means if/when the time comes. the old bill cant be everywhere if it kicks off. from what i saw in london today, then if someone wants to try and brake into my place then they will get everything they deserve. its not being a vigilante when you protect your family. so i totally agree with you there mate.

[Mortster]

Originally Posted by andy-m

Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that

Im going to just say it...with a large % of the ofenders being from a ethnic back ground, it only takes one person defending his/her property from a diffrent ethnic back ground to injure/kill, then where in another world of ****.

[fieldy]

Originally Posted by Mortster

Im going to just say it...with a large % of the ofenders being from a ethnic back ground,

i had noticed that too.

oh and whats the saying , " if you cant do the time, dont do the crime." the time can be meant in many types of ways. if they go out wanting to smash, rob or burn then they should expect to come face to face with some one who will stand up to them.

[Anger]

My Sister has just been told to leave our shop as trouble is on its way

Originally Posted by Anger

My Sister has just been told to leave our shop as trouble is on its way

Hope its just precautionary mate!!

[Skullfudge]

I'm not sure why people are suggesting the army. What can they do?

My company is involved with these issues as we are one of the only Drilling & Sawing Contractors in the UK that have "A Class Vetted Staff" This allows us into any Military, government of Police, building , unit or compound. We are often shadowed by armed police of military and they are never more than 4 Mts away from us.

The army are NOT allowed to carry live munitions other than the rare situations like the Iranian Embassy siege.
Police are the only ones allowed to hold firearms with live munitions in public areas.



They know where trouble is expected as the likes of Twitter Face Book and other social networks are being monitored.

The same social networks now need to be used for the organising of other groups to turn up and start on these fooking idiots.
That's what needs to happen otherwise this could very easily get out of hand.

They are not scared of cops or soldiers running at them with a polycarbonate shield BUT if the likes of Billy Two Holes and Machette Mick were on the scene they would fooking 5hit themselves !

[Bearo]

Only reason i think we need the army is the extra numbers to cover more areas and form a better wall of protection at least!

[fieldy]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

if the likes of Billy Two Holes and Machette Mick were on the scene they would fooking 5hit themselves !

exactly right mate. its surprising the reaction you get when "two barrels" are visible. i got stopped by 2 old bill when i was out shooting one day. they thourght i had an air rifle, well they had been told i had an air rifle by some "joe public". they wanted to know if i had permission to shoot on this land. their faces were a picture when i turned round with a double barrel 12 bore

[Bearo]

this made me lol

[ralliart didz]

i agree with mortser,country gone 2 pot because we have 2many foreign people coming here and cant handle it.the goverment is to blame and all the greedy bankers only intrested in making money.i dont think the goverment give a toss and more intrested in other countrys.

i also agree with skullfudge and andy as the law system is a joke and they will only do something if they can make money out of crime.

[pigSTi]

Originally Posted by worzel

Anarchy is the only word that sums it up!

This is not IMHO a government problem, yes they have made swinging cuts which have affected a lot of people, but this would be happening whoever was in charge. Anyone blaming the government for this really ought to get a reality check, because they have obviously lost their minds.

This is purely a class of "British" citizenship with huge personal and cultural issues, lashing out at a weak and hand tied police force and in the name of no cause at all. I'm sorry, but none of these idiots can blame what happened in Tottenham for this, this is mindless violence and grand theft on a huge scale.

These are kids of 14 - 18 years old, with parents who don't give a flying **** what they do or where they are.

It has to be stopped somehow, if the police don't get a grip on this today, even to the point of drafting the army in, then I dread to think what will happen tonight, there will be deaths, but unfortunately they will be from the wrong side of the coin. Get troops mobilized, armed with rubber bullets and riot gear and let them kick the living **** out of these people.

Couldn't have summed it up better. I would swap rubber for live though...

[Lucky]

The news made me laugh this morning. They openly said that this was mainly organised through blackberry messenger, and is still continuing to do so. So why dont Blackberry do the decent thing and 'switch off' for a time.

If these things are being organised through the likes of twitter, facebook and blackberry messenger, then there is yet another reason for them to be closed down, particularly in situations like this. Had these not exsisted, then word could not spread fast enough to organise crime on this level.

[pigSTi]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Time now 2.00pm and just had a phone call.

Maidstone & Rochester are shutting all shops at 3.00pm with many boarding up windows.
Face Book, Twitter and blackberry messaging has been monitored and Police are expecting trouble.

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

You're not the only one and tbh I kinda hope people do start doing that. At least someone will be doing something, those ****s need putting down, end of. Filthy dirty ****ing little ****s

[RobEvo5]

Morrison's in Hastings Town turned over, and Tesco at Hollington if I can believe what I am being told. Not good.! Glyne Gap could be interesting later tonight.

Also town is blocked off, M&S Smashed in. Morrison is on fire.....

[andy-m]

left work early n just got home.
greenwich, 90% of the shops were closed. same in the bits of lewsham u can drive through.
already the odd group of 3-5 tossers, I mean youths sitting on walls, at bus stops n jst hangin around.
I hope the police with those plastic bullets realy f them up tonight

[fieldy]

the trouble is that 26 other police forces have sent men into london to back up the MET. what happens if it all kicks off in the areas where the force has been weakend.?? could be fun..........

[majorscooby]

By all accounts the looters in Peckham got away with,

some half priced cracked ice and miles and miles of carpet tiles,
tv's, deep freeze, and david bowie LP's,
ball games, gold chains, whassa names, picture frames and leather goods,
some trevor francis track suits from a mush in shepherds bush,
bush bush bush bush bush bush bush!! lol

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

By all accounts the looters in Peckham got away with,

some half priced cracked ice and miles and miles of carpet tiles,
tv's, deep freeze, and david bowie LP's,
ball games, gold chains, whassa names, picture frames and leather goods,
some trevor francis track suits from a mush in shepherds bush,
bush bush bush bush bush bush bush!! lol

Classic

[fieldy]

excelent

[scooby doo]

Just drove threw hastings on way home and there isnt anything, morrisons is closed and around 20 officers surrounding the premises but thats it, no damage that i saw..

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Morrison's in Hastings Town turned over, and Tesco at Hollington if I can believe what I am being told. Not good.! Glyne Gap could be interesting later tonight.

Also town is blocked off, M&S Smashed in. Morrison is on fire.....

http://twitter.com/#!/sussex_police

All calm apparently, just rumours.

[Anger]

Watching Sky news now and it looks like all the main buildings are being borded up near me

[Steve_PPP]

There's nothing happening in Hastings other than a strong police presence just in case. All rumour being spread via social networking. Only needs one person to post a "OMG, just seen Morrisons on fire" on Twitter and 500 people have re-tweeted it in seconds. If you use Twitter try @sussex_police.

Shane

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Morrison's in Hastings Town turned over, and Tesco at Hollington if I can believe what I am being told. Not good.! Glyne Gap could be interesting later tonight.

Also town is blocked off, M&S Smashed in. Morrison is on fire.....

I drove through the town at 4.35 and saw nothing except Morrisons was closed.

There is nothing happening it's that twitterface ********. Ali my other half also amb staff has been at work all day with no incident.

[RobEvo5]

Originally Posted by Nige

There is nothing happening it's that twitterface ********. Ali my other half also amb staff has been at work all day with no incident.

Good to hear - Its Amazing how jungle drums and cats whisphers can soon distort things, and blow things out of proportion. The Hooligans of Hastings, wouldn't be intellegant enough to cause a riot even if they tried so did think it it a little bizzare when I heard it.

[BIG"E"]

Apparently some of Morrisons windows have now been boarded over.


Nige I hope Ali is not working tonight.

No there not mate ive just driven past there. Thing is twitterface brings out the sort of people who would cause trouble but only if others start 1st. Can you imagine them trying to kick off in the old town End of & come collect the body's from the sea in the morn. Huddy's meet the fishermen Ha! Ha! should be a movie.

[fieldy]

Originally Posted by Nige

No there not mate ive just driven past there. Thing is twitterface brings out the sort of people who would cause trouble but only if others start 1st. Can you imagine them trying to kick off in the old town End of & come collect the body's from the sea in the morn. Huddy's meet the fishermen Ha! Ha! should be a movie.

now , thats got a whiff of good old Freddie Foreman about that. fishermen, chicken wire, bricks, boat journey out to the english channel.

Am told via Facebook it's starting kicking off in Tunbridge Wells

[Frenchie]

Police were out yesterday evening in Hassocks trying to catch motorists doing 42mph in a 40mph limit so we call all sleep safe in our beds.Can't say I was to impressed.

[Frenchie]

Glad to hear that you and the family are ok Nick.

[michelle_mort]

Originally Posted by Crowman

Am told via Facebook it's starting kicking off in Tunbridge Wells

quite here so far

I heard it was Sherwood ?
Good old Facebook getting it wrong

[Mortster]

Ive got my Ninja swords out, so i can chop some Mofos up! Not comming near my family or me.

[michelle_mort]

Originally Posted by Crowman

I heard it was Sherwood ?
Good old Facebook getting it wrong

they can have it nothing there if they were gonna go for t wells would be pantiles on main drag

[Bearo]

.............. lol.

[Bearo]

Things have taken a turn tonight. Rumours they are BNP or whatever but the police are backing them so my guess is its local blokes who have had enough!!

Watch this video of Enfield tonight!

[tbtstt]

In my mind the Police should have shot a few more people in the last day or two. A mindless mob wants violence: let them have it.

What I've seen on the TV in the last 24 hours has been nothing less then utterly sickening.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Bearo

Watch this video of Enfield tonight!

Blimey, i was expecting the silver Chrysler to get smashed up at first. But yeah, they're all white folk chasing out the looters - with the police mixed up amongst them!

Not one of them was throwing stuff or damaging stuff. And people say this isn't anything to do with race