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Old 15-11-2009, 06:39 PM
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Air Con all gone now





Replaced braided hosing to PSF Tank and RCM's new "one piece" Air In pipe just below the K & N. This used to be a 2 part, by now RCM have the moulding for a one piece.









New switches. Map 1 = V Power / Map 2 = 20% Methanol. / On Off switch = Anti Lag





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With the car at a stand still, turn switch to "1", Put throttle to floor, (3500 rpm). wait about 5 seconds for WW3 to start then dump the clutch and you are somewhere else very quickly

Through to "9" which is set at 7500 rpm.

These settings are designed to suit different grip levelS that are generated from the under type surface.
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Old 15-11-2009, 06:59 PM
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Looking good as always Clive
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Old 15-11-2009, 08:36 PM
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Fantastic stuff mate. Love it
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Old 15-11-2009, 08:47 PM
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That looks stunning

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Old 16-11-2009, 09:55 AM
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As always, looks the absolute dogs.
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Old 16-11-2009, 03:23 PM
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Have you driven it yet Clive as i'd like to know how much difference the meth mix has made

Did RCM also sort the oil cooler & fuel supply problems
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Old 16-11-2009, 03:35 PM
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Is that SimTek or Solaris you are running mr fudge?

My switches are in the center console. But I only have one on and off one for launch control which dials in 4000rpm - quite intersted to see you dial thingy
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Old 16-11-2009, 03:59 PM
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Is that SimTek or Solaris you are running mr fudge?

My switches are in the center console. But I only have one on and off one for launch control which dials in 4000rpm - quite intersted to see you dial thingy
I believe it's neither but a full on Motec system
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Old 16-11-2009, 06:35 PM
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Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick

I will let you know.
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Old 16-11-2009, 07:35 PM
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nice one!

been on a dyno yet?
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Old 16-11-2009, 07:56 PM
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Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick

I will let you know.

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Old 16-11-2009, 08:04 PM
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Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick

I will let you know.
you don't need to use up the complete take on vpower btw.. just add meths and fill up then you have a tank full of vpower and the correct % meths..

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Old 16-11-2009, 08:07 PM
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you don't need to use up the complete take on vpower btw.. just add meths and fill up then you have a tank full of vpower and the correct % meths..

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Thats what i was thinking, 20% mix should be about 10 or 11 litres
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Old 16-11-2009, 08:09 PM
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yes which reminds me I need to fill my cans
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Old 16-11-2009, 08:46 PM
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looks awesome a bit cleaner and quicker than my old p1
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Old 16-11-2009, 09:40 PM
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Hi Jolly.

Will be getting power figures shortly.

I guess you mean take the meths with you to the Shell garage. pour in 10 Ltrs then fill up with V Power?

You had any dealings with mapping of 20% mate ? and if so what power increases have you seen from 20% Meths.?
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Old 16-11-2009, 10:03 PM
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Old 16-11-2009, 11:27 PM
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Hi Jolly.

Will be getting power figures shortly.

I guess you mean take the meths with you to the Shell garage. pour in 10 Ltrs then fill up with V Power?

You had any dealings with mapping of 20% mate ? and if so what power increases have you seen from 20% Meths.?
yes and yes

put the meth in first at filling station (if you get asked just say using up old fuel).. had the question a few times.. that way it mixes as you fill with vpower.

usually 20~30bhp.. depends on whether the engine is ignition limited or not already.

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Old 16-11-2009, 11:38 PM
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I think i speak for everyone else when i say WOW........
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Old 16-11-2009, 11:48 PM
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yes and yes

put the meth in first at filling station (if you get asked just say using up old fuel).. had the question a few times.. that way it mixes as you fill with vpower.

usually 20~30bhp.. depends on whether the engine is ignition limited or not already.

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The mapping achieved an additional 5 degrees of ignition Jolly.
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Old 16-11-2009, 11:51 PM
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30bhp roughly then
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Old 17-11-2009, 08:09 AM
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30bhp roughly then

Oh, is that all Simon was hoping for a bit more than that?
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Old 17-11-2009, 08:58 AM
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How many times am I going to say it, WOW nicest P1 ever

Forgive the possibly stupid question, with the meth mix in the fuel it means that you are running the map for 20% at all times!, or would filling up with v power and switching to the appropriate map not cause any issues, obviously some meth mix would remain. would going for a meth injection kit not give you more control over when you run v/power and or meth? (hope that makes sense) with a seperate meth bottle/tank for the injection system, would also enable you to stretch the meth with a distilled water mix, something which you obviously cannot do with the main tank system.

Also with meth injection comes increased cooling, again giving increase in power, however nominal, does the characteristic of the 20% meth mix by mixing in the main tank provide the added benefit of a cooler combustion also?

30bhp sounds reasonable for 20%, out of interest what figures were you expecting?
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Old 17-11-2009, 10:45 AM
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Thanks for the nice comments guys.

Mr X. Simon (Jollygreen) will give you the tech bit

When I run on V Power only I keep the Map 1 switch on. If I have any % of Methanol in the tank Map 1 will still be ok.
With a 20% mix I need to switch to Map 2.
With Map 2 selected running V Power only is a no no and could cause damage to pistons.
Mixing Meths in one tank I imagine would produce a cooler combustion throughout?
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looks good mate, hopefully ill get mine like that one day, did you polish up the inlet manifold yourself?
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Old 17-11-2009, 12:04 PM
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looks good mate, hopefully ill get mine like that one day, did you polish up the inlet manifold yourself?
Yes mate I did. It's nice having a clean engine but it take much continuous commitment especially at the early stages, then once the engine looks clean it's not too much work.

It's not a show car that is locked up between shows I use it as my everyday car.
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I clean the engine twice a week (every bit I can reach) taking about 2 hrs per.
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I clean the engine twice a week (every bit I can reach) taking about 2 hrs per.


thats some dedication, especially during cold winter evenings in the garage!
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:16 PM
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only example I can find at the moment..

top line is on meth 10% (but gains to 20% is not going to be massive) and bottom line is just vpower



pretty much 20bhp and 20lb everywhere once on boost.

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Simon

Sorry to hijack this thread with something different by the way.

Are you at SRR tomorrow? If so, are there any slots?

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Old 17-11-2009, 01:26 PM
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Simon

Sorry to hijack this thread with something different by the way.

Are you at SRR tomorrow? If so, are there any slots?

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Yes and for you sir yes
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:27 PM
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Ooooh, I could crush a grape. Thanks.

See you tomorrow then young sir.
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:30 PM
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:36 PM
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Ok thanks for that Simon.

I have just filled the car with 20% and given it a quick blip down a straight and there was a little difference.
Nothing to write home about though.
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:39 PM
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See you tomorrow then young sir.
MMMM do i make it three days in a row at SRR
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Old 17-11-2009, 01:44 PM
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Ok thanks for that Simon.

I have just filled the car with 20% and given it a quick blip down a straight and there was a little difference.
Nothing to write home about though.
from memory I went on my other car from 472bhp on vpower to 491bhp on 10% meth and then broke rear shaft so couldn't play on the dyno anymore.. and that is noticable when changing as I have kept vpower map as map 1 and meth as map 2 etc..

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more than welcome, I suspect three currys in a row might not be wise though
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What time you guys there?
I am out that way tomorrow and will pop in to say hi, well if the beemer is done.
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I am out that way tomorrow and will pop in to say hi, well if the beemer is done.
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