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Skullfudge 15-11-2009 06:39 PM

New Look of my engine
 
Air Con all gone now

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...fudge/Eng3.jpg



Replaced braided hosing to PSF Tank and RCM's new "one piece" Air In pipe just below the K & N. This used to be a 2 part, by now RCM have the moulding for a one piece.


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...fudge/Eng2.jpg


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...fudge/Eng1.jpg



New switches. Map 1 = V Power / Map 2 = 20% Methanol. / On Off switch = Anti Lag

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...e/DSCF2614.jpg



The Loud Dial :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...dge/Fright.jpg

With the car at a stand still, turn switch to "1", Put throttle to floor, (3500 rpm). wait about 5 seconds for WW3 to start then dump the clutch and you are somewhere else very quickly :)

Through to "9" which is set at 7500 rpm.

These settings are designed to suit different grip levelS that are generated from the under type surface.

DukeBoy 15-11-2009 06:59 PM

Looking good as always Clive :doubleup:

Crowman 15-11-2009 08:36 PM

Fantastic stuff mate. Love it:yeah:

Chunk 15-11-2009 08:47 PM

That looks stunning

Love for mine to look like that

worzel 16-11-2009 09:55 AM

As always, looks the absolute dogs. :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Granby 16-11-2009 03:23 PM

Have you driven it yet Clive as i'd like to know how much difference the meth mix has made

Did RCM also sort the oil cooler & fuel supply problems

brightonmunich 16-11-2009 03:35 PM

Is that SimTek or Solaris you are running mr fudge?

My switches are in the center console. But I only have one on and off one for launch control which dials in 4000rpm - quite intersted to see you dial thingy :)

Granby 16-11-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brightonmunich (Post 28202)
Is that SimTek or Solaris you are running mr fudge?

My switches are in the center console. But I only have one on and off one for launch control which dials in 4000rpm - quite intersted to see you dial thingy :)

I believe it's neither but a full on Motec system

Skullfudge 16-11-2009 06:35 PM

Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick :)

I will let you know.

Jolly Green Monster 16-11-2009 07:35 PM

nice one!

been on a dyno yet?

brightonmunich 16-11-2009 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 28220)
Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick :)

I will let you know.


Dangerous to assume :)

Jolly Green Monster 16-11-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 28220)
Hi Gramps.

Firstly Brighton, Gramps is correct, it's the Motec 800.

I have not driven it on Meths yet mate. I will do sometime this week. Just need to use half a tank of V Power I have left then the Meths will go in double quick :)

I will let you know.

you don't need to use up the complete take on vpower btw.. just add meths and fill up then you have a tank full of vpower and the correct % meths..

Simon

Granby 16-11-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 28242)
you don't need to use up the complete take on vpower btw.. just add meths and fill up then you have a tank full of vpower and the correct % meths..

Simon

Thats what i was thinking, 20% mix should be about 10 or 11 litres

Jolly Green Monster 16-11-2009 08:09 PM

yes ;) which reminds me I need to fill my cans :)

bigemp 16-11-2009 08:46 PM

looks awesome a bit cleaner and quicker than my old p1:doubleup:

Skullfudge 16-11-2009 09:40 PM

Hi Jolly.

Will be getting power figures shortly.

I guess you mean take the meths with you to the Shell garage. pour in 10 Ltrs then fill up with V Power?

You had any dealings with mapping of 20% mate ? and if so what power increases have you seen from 20% Meths.?

Steve_PPP 16-11-2009 10:03 PM

looks awesome! :mrgreen:

Jolly Green Monster 16-11-2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 28249)
Hi Jolly.

Will be getting power figures shortly.

I guess you mean take the meths with you to the Shell garage. pour in 10 Ltrs then fill up with V Power?

You had any dealings with mapping of 20% mate ? and if so what power increases have you seen from 20% Meths.?

yes and yes :)

put the meth in first at filling station (if you get asked just say using up old fuel).. had the question a few times.. that way it mixes as you fill with vpower.

usually 20~30bhp.. depends on whether the engine is ignition limited or not already.

Simon

Tyler 16-11-2009 11:38 PM

I think i speak for everyone else when i say WOW........

Skullfudge 16-11-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 28286)
yes and yes :)

put the meth in first at filling station (if you get asked just say using up old fuel).. had the question a few times.. that way it mixes as you fill with vpower.

usually 20~30bhp.. depends on whether the engine is ignition limited or not already.

Simon


The mapping achieved an additional 5 degrees of ignition Jolly.

Jolly Green Monster 16-11-2009 11:51 PM

30bhp roughly then ;)

Skullfudge 17-11-2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 28292)
30bhp roughly then ;)


Oh, is that all Simon :( was hoping for a bit more than that?

MrX??? 17-11-2009 08:58 AM

How many times am I going to say it, WOW:shock: nicest P1 ever:nod:

Forgive the possibly stupid question, with the meth mix in the fuel it means that you are running the map for 20% at all times!, or would filling up with v power and switching to the appropriate map not cause any issues, obviously some meth mix would remain. would going for a meth injection kit not give you more control over when you run v/power and or meth? (hope that makes sense) with a seperate meth bottle/tank for the injection system, would also enable you to stretch the meth with a distilled water mix, something which you obviously cannot do with the main tank system.

Also with meth injection comes increased cooling, again giving increase in power, however nominal, does the characteristic of the 20% meth mix by mixing in the main tank provide the added benefit of a cooler combustion also?

30bhp sounds reasonable for 20%, out of interest what figures were you expecting?

Skullfudge 17-11-2009 10:45 AM

Thanks for the nice comments guys.

Mr X. Simon (Jollygreen) will give you the tech bit :)

When I run on V Power only I keep the Map 1 switch on. If I have any % of Methanol in the tank Map 1 will still be ok.
With a 20% mix I need to switch to Map 2.
With Map 2 selected running V Power only is a no no and could cause damage to pistons.
Mixing Meths in one tank I imagine would produce a cooler combustion throughout?

AndyWRX 17-11-2009 10:51 AM

looks good mate, hopefully ill get mine like that one day, did you polish up the inlet manifold yourself?

DM 17-11-2009 11:01 AM

That is just pure p0rn :grin:

Skullfudge 17-11-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWRX (Post 28320)
looks good mate, hopefully ill get mine like that one day, did you polish up the inlet manifold yourself?

Yes mate I did. It's nice having a clean engine but it take much continuous commitment especially at the early stages, then once the engine looks clean it's not too much work.

It's not a show car that is locked up between shows I use it as my everyday car.
Never won a thing :( The cars that win are generally very rarely used, however I don't do it for prizes, I do it for me :)

I clean the engine twice a week (every bit I can reach) taking about 2 hrs per.
Autosol on metal, Autoglym Engine cleaner (water based) is really good for cleaning oil and muck off most parts.

I never clean a warm engine, or never jet wash the engine.

Steve_PPP 17-11-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 28354)
I clean the engine twice a week (every bit I can reach) taking about 2 hrs per.

:shock:

thats some dedication, especially during cold winter evenings in the garage!

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 01:16 PM

only example I can find at the moment..

top line is on meth 10% (but gains to 20% is not going to be massive) and bottom line is just vpower

http://images.fotopic.net/1yf7dz.jpg

pretty much 20bhp and 20lb everywhere once on boost.

Simon

worzel 17-11-2009 01:21 PM

Simon

Sorry to hijack this thread with something different by the way.

Are you at SRR tomorrow? If so, are there any slots?

Steve

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel (Post 28380)
Simon

Sorry to hijack this thread with something different by the way.

Are you at SRR tomorrow? If so, are there any slots?

Steve

Yes and for you sir yes ;)

worzel 17-11-2009 01:27 PM

Ooooh, I could crush a grape. Thanks.

See you tomorrow then young sir. :norty:

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel (Post 28385)
ooooh, i could crush a grape. Thanks.

See you tomorrow then young sir. :norty:

;) :d :)

Skullfudge 17-11-2009 01:36 PM

Ok thanks for that Simon.

I have just filled the car with 20% and given it a quick blip down a straight and there was a little difference.
Nothing to write home about though.

C. J. 17-11-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel (Post 28385)
Ooooh, I could crush a grape. Thanks.

See you tomorrow then young sir. :norty:

MMMM do i make it three days in a row at SRR :norty:

worzel 17-11-2009 01:44 PM

You know you wanna! :yeah:

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 28390)
Ok thanks for that Simon.

I have just filled the car with 20% and given it a quick blip down a straight and there was a little difference.
Nothing to write home about though.

from memory I went on my other car from 472bhp on vpower to 491bhp on 10% meth and then broke rear shaft so couldn't play on the dyno anymore.. and that is noticable when changing as I have kept vpower map as map 1 and meth as map 2 etc..

Simon

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. J. (Post 28392)
MMMM do i make it three days in a row at SRR :norty:

more than welcome, I suspect three currys in a row might not be wise though

C. J. 17-11-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 28400)
more than welcome, I suspect three currys in a row might not be wise though

Why ever not !:-D

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 02:17 PM

do you have health insurance?

C. J. 17-11-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 28406)
do you have health insurance?

Do you have A GAS MASK ;-)

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 02:19 PM

lmfao

Crowman 17-11-2009 03:11 PM

What time you guys there?
I am out that way tomorrow and will pop in to say hi, well if the beemer is done.

worzel 17-11-2009 03:14 PM

I will heading there for early afternoon (1.00 ish)

Jolly Green Monster 17-11-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowman (Post 28414)
What time you guys there?
I am out that way tomorrow and will pop in to say hi, well if the beemer is done.

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