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Old 19-08-2014, 02:05 PM
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What would be the best option after running a Td05 16g for a while . I have been looking at the sc460 billet on scoobyclinic , the MD321 series on lateral performance and the GT-420 on Andy Forrest performance aiming to achieve 420-450bhp on a forged engine running non vvt heads .
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Old 19-08-2014, 03:09 PM
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Will it be a 2.1? The Sc42 is very a very capable unit. Seen them achieve 480 odd on a 2.1
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Old 19-08-2014, 04:58 PM
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Will it be a 2.1? The Sc42 is very a very capable unit. Seen them achieve 480 odd on a 2.1
No keeping it as a 2.0ltr
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Old 19-08-2014, 05:04 PM
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No keeping it as a 2.0ltr
Any particular reason why? Purely asking out of interest mate, not questioning your decision

I'd personally go sc42. Will get you the power you want.
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Old 19-08-2014, 05:29 PM
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Sc40 or 42 would be my choice
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Old 19-08-2014, 06:10 PM
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Any particular reason why? Purely asking out of interest mate, not questioning your decision

I'd personally go sc42. Will get you the power you want.
No reason but I will look into it and see how much of a price difference there is with my builder .
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Old 19-08-2014, 06:30 PM
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My MD321x may be available soon, as a proven 450+ turbo on a 2.1 when it was on Angers car.
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Old 19-08-2014, 06:58 PM
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Made 507bhp on my 2.1
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Have an MD321T billet in mine, very happy with it.
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No reason but I will look into it and see how much of a price difference there is with my builder .
Essentially, I think it's the cost of the crank and machining to the block that's extra. Personally if it were me, I'd get it done.
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Essentially, I think it's the cost of the crank and machining to the block that's extra. Personally if it were me, I'd get it done.
Can you use a SCDB for a 2.1 stroker as been looking at more info and a CDB is used as it is a stronger engine .
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Old 20-08-2014, 03:36 PM
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Scdb are fine for 500& a bit
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As CJ says mate. Think CDB's are starting to creep up now and as a scdb will be more than sufficient for what you're aiming for, it's not essential to go that route.
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As CJ says mate. Think CDB's are starting to creep up now and as a scdb will be more than sufficient for what you're aiming for, it's not essential to go that route.
Just found out from one builder it costs a lot more to build a 2.1 than to go the full forge route but still waiting on a reply from my builder to see what price he going to give me as he has gave me a good price to forge the engine I bought off him .
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Just found out from one builder it costs a lot more to build a 2.1 than to go the full forge route but still waiting on a reply from my builder to see what price he going to give me as he has gave me a good price to forge the engine I bought off him .
Interesting. Not had either done so I have no personal experience but from what i've read (in hours terms we're talking days if not weeks!) it's not much more. Not asking you to disclose your price but I know Engine Tuner do a 2.1 stroker for £4k. You drive your car there they do it, run it in for the first 50 miles, change oil then you pop it back for further oil changes (500 and 1000 I think) during running in period then they map it. They have a very good reputation too.
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Old 20-08-2014, 05:52 PM
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Pop it back is a 8 hour round trip
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HAHA I wish 11hr one way trip for me .
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HAHA I wish 11hr one way trip for me .
On the plus , it'll be run in quick
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Old 20-08-2014, 10:08 PM
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I think I will give a phone or email to talk to Alan Jeffery at Enginetuner for a price to see how much it will cost to do a 2.1 stroker on the sti8 SCDB then go from there .
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Old 21-08-2014, 08:15 AM
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You could just stick a stock STi8 bottom end in for your power target, all I'm doing with my new classic
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Got to get the running in miles done anyway. 2 birds one stone is how I'd look at it.
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That's what I've decided but just going to get it forged just to be safe as it works out a lot cheaper are mahle powerpak pistons a good choice to go with . What classic have you got now James .
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On the plus , it'll be run in quick
Exactly what I think. Little more than two days driving et voila.
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Old 21-08-2014, 10:18 AM
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Confused at how it works out cheaper going forged
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What you up to then mate

Selling the blob?
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Because the sti8 short block is already sitting waiting on me it doesn't need to be pulled out of the car and stripped its a lot less work for him to do which cuts the cost down a bit . Mind you the price will go up with the extra parts I will want fitted ready for the engine to drop in .
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Old 21-08-2014, 10:55 AM
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My STi8 has been running over 420 for 6 years now



I now own this shell and the blob stays for now Steve
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I now own this shell and the blob stays for now Steve
I was wondering if you were going to buy that so what's the plan with that James (going to track it ) .
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Nice, that is going to look the nuts
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