Got my baby back :)

[Skullfudge]

YES !! collected the beast today with 580 miles left before taking it back for the mans map


Had a brand new GT30 Billet Wheel Turbo fitted along with all new internals, crank etc etc and she sounds good.


Great to hear the rumbles, bangs and pops again !

[Anger]

Great news Clive

[munk]

nice!!

Nice one Clive :EVO:

[BIG"E"]

Nice one Clive.

Happy days

[Hongkongfooi]

At last, great news

[majorscooby]

Pleased for ya fella , enjoy!

Are you still 2 litre then? :EVO:

[Fozzy N]

That's great News...

Happy days pal.

[Tyler]

Nice one Clive..

[kartingsteve]

Great news

[Steve_PPP]

Happy days indeed mate, bet its good to have her back

[C. J.]

Good to hear

[thepieman]

Good news matey, driving the car back for the re-map will knock a few of those miles off

[Bolesroor]

Great news +1

[simba]

nice one clive

[Lucky]

Cool. Look forward to seeing and hearing it!

[Gavsti555]

That's good news mate

[Skullfudge]

Thanks guys

Nice one mate, I bet that was a great journey home

[Granby]

Great news

[Tomma]

Happy days! I'm sure it was worth the wait!

[Skullfudge]

Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

[jura11]

Great news


Jura

[tbtstt]

Great news, look forward to an ALS demonstration soon!

[Skullfudge]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

Great news, look forward to an ALS demonstration soon!

ALS Demonstration ?? Anal Loud Sounds ??


Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey

I have already heard word of Crowmans eye-watering rear end odour. I think I can live without a live fire demonstration of that.

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

ALS Demonstration ?? Anal Loud Sounds ??


Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey

To be sure to be sure

:fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::f art:

ALS

In Martyns case though, it's more like Anal Love Soup

[Krissyb]

If you need an excuse for some running in Miles come over mine for a cuppa mate Major scooby is a few doors down aswel.

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Nige

Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:

Who are you kidding.

Not me youll still have a dam good go bring on the,

autobahns.

:EVO:

or

:EVO:

[scixer6r]

look forward to a demo any time soon,clive are you at rye on the 19 feb?

[Skullfudge]

Originally Posted by Nige

Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:

On 20% it should knock out 600

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

On 20% it should knock out 600

They normaly do on 15%

[Mad Paddy]

great news,

600 will be mental in a P1,bring on the fun

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

On 20% it should knock out 600

Well that's at least 100 BhP more than I can muster. 600 bhp in a classic has got to be mental :EVO:

[scoobyslayer]

Great news clive!

I hope that means it will be back in germany in May

[SUBARMAN]

Awesome Clive! Enjoy!!

:SUBARMAN:

[Skullfudge]

COMPETITION TIME




Off up RCM at 6 in the morning for a Mans Map



Guess the bhp on V Power only


Remember it's now 2.1 and got the new spec GT30 Billet Wheel Turbo (longer blades and compressor wheel is 10% lighter than the first GT30BW.


I have no idea of what power it will achieve but my guess is 538 Bhp




What's yours ?????????

[Granby]

568bhp

[belliott]

555bhp

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by belliott

555bhp

That would be pretty cool!

550 BHP

[thepieman]

Be lucky if it turns the rollers

560 for me!

[Fozzy N]

Does the winner win a ride in it with you?

545

[Tomma]

548 be my guess!

[impreza27]

561bhp

[Skullfudge]

Yep. winner gets a raggin'

[Hongkongfooi]

556 bhp

[majorscooby]

564 bhp

[QUOTE=Skullfudge;121196]Yep. winner gets a raggin' [

Can I guess tomorrow afternoon

[Skullfudge]

[QUOTE=Crowman;121206]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Yep. winner gets a raggin' [

Can I guess tomorrow afternoon

LOL I was waiting for something from you or Ron LOL

[bigemp]

570

[jura11]

What is exhaust housing on your GT30 Clive?



Jura

[Skullfudge]

Originally Posted by jura11

What is exhaust housing on your GT30 Clive?



Jura

82

[jura11]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

82

In 82AR exhaust housing i would expect around 560-580bhp

We will see

Jura

[QUOTE=Skullfudge;121211]

Originally Posted by Crowman

LOL I was waiting for something from you or Ron LOL

I've been honoured enough to get behind the wheel , that's me satisfied

Hope we can get the hose out quickly before it goes on the rollers

[Skullfudge]

LOL maybe able to mate

[Bolesroor]

540 BHP but I know sweet FA, good luck anyway would be nice to have a ride though

I know , I know , I know

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by Crowman

I know , I know , I know

Whose getting the ride then?...

I will let Mr Fudge answer that

[Tomma]

did anyone hit the nail on the head!?

[Skullfudge]

Long day and got home 30 mins ago.

The P1 was beginning to max out on fuel around the 540 mark and with the broken valve still in mind Paul Blamire done the sensible thing and allowed head room for safety so it's running at 516 now.
Not forgetting it's now 2.1 rather than 2.0. This would have played a part in the fueling maxing out.


Eventually left RCM early evening with Eureka sitting beside me in the P1 and Crowman & Pieman following in Crowmans BMW (company car). All three mates came up with me at 6.30 am.


Just before we left Paul advised me that he had altered the 9 setting Launch Control dial. 0, 1 & 2 were now boost control only with 3-9 set up for LC with increasing rpm as it was before and a less fierce launch if I use 0, 1 or 2.


Drove out of RCM and ITCHING to floor the thing. The roads or traffic didn't allow me to floor it for several miles. Whilst in 3rd I floored it up to 7500, in 4th and back on the floor but had to lift straight away due to a roundabout ahead. It picked up well and felt good but to be honest it wasn't such a big leap as I thought.

Floored it several more times on the way home and then thought mmmmm its still fooking quick though. Floored it in 6th and noticed the red light on the Turbo Boost Defi which isn't uncommon when you have just had work done on your engine, It just needs to be reset which is a 30 second job.

Got ONE mile from my house and Eureka and I were talking about the LC dial so I pulled up. Checked the dial and it was at 0 like it should be unless I'm going to use the LC. I then floored it watching the boost gauge stop at 1.0 bar !!!!!!!

The penny then dropped about what Paul had told us and I turned to dial to 2, floored the thing and all hell broke loose and thought YESSSSSSSSSSS that’s more like my old P1 :001_rolleyes:

The engine does sound different (louder) and the bangs and pops happen a lot more on normal driving.
Haven’t tried the LC / AL yet but that will be noisier go by the engine sound, so if you are thinking of photos or filming with yer phones/cameras stay well back. I fooked 6 microphones on guys phones so far. 

Don't forget the 520 its running at now is V Power only. I still have Meths as an option for a fair bit more power. It's also running in a very safe mode which is good to know.
Will I be using Meths in the future? .......... you know Fudge



Fooking awesome !!!!!!

Lol, you numpty, bet you thought this doesn't feel that quick.
Excellent day indeed.
And great result mate.

As for gob stopper 2, holly cow , in the flesh , stunning

[Kerstin]

Great result, Clive. And it sounds like vrrrrrmmmmmm, vrrrrrrmmmmmm Can't wait to see it in the flesh, and hear it, of course.

[jura11]

520bhp in P1 must be mind blowing,we are running in new age wagon 490bhp and still think is great,but with 520bhp in classic must be something

Good work Clive and really pleased for you

Jura

Great stuff Clive, I'm well chuffed for you mate!

Shame I couldn't join you blokes today, but needs must and all that!

[Skullfudge]

Thanks guys n gals

It sounds different (louder) and the bangs and pops are more frequent

As MC told me today "the P1 is now optimum for the streets. More power would prove no gain as a road car".

500+ in a 1290kg car that is set up right is scary when driven hard. All passengers develop a huge grin normally followed a word beginning with F

[ralliart didz]

well done clive,now wheres the video

[Skullfudge]

I will try and make one when I get some time mate

[Skullfudge]

Now the P1 is back to normal and the body has been detailed I need to attack the engine bay. That needs a fair bit of work on it.

Other than 30 minutes on the metal i've cleaned nothing in five months. It's never looked this bad but that will be sorted soon and I'll post up a picture when it's clean.

You could always swing by on Saturday

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

It sounds different (louder) and the bangs and pops are more frequent

Thats the most important thing!

Glad you have it back and its still quick!

[Fozzy N]

That's fantastic news, looking forward to seeing it go

[Skullfudge]

RCM's dyno must surely be very conservative as the P1 is certainly faster ???
It feels much quicker than 516

It's said that SRR would show about 20 extra bhp compared to the rollers at RCM. Not sure how right that is, but there will always be those discrepancies between rollers.

Just out of interest, what was the ambient temp in the room, that has a bearing too.

Cracking graphs though mate

The ambient temp was about minus bloomin 10. well thats how it felt. Bloomin freezing.

I woosed off and sat on the comfy sofas in the warm

[C. J.]

Holds boost well .
Only one way to find out about rollers is go see Charlie

Now dont jump down my kneck! I would of thought a RCM built 2.2,Gt30 billet wheel tubby with an 82 housing should be making more than that. Especialy running that sort of boost. Maybe your right Clive & you have got a conservative R&R figure. Only one way to find out Charlie's or Jrm's. :EVO:

Nige, its 2.1

was interesting to watch it mapped, i know sod all about mapping , but looked like a very methodical process with gradual tweaks over a good few hours.
Speaking to paul, he said he could give Clive some larger dyno figures by upping boost etc , but would not leave it running so close to the limit as far as fuelling goes, so whats the point.

Bugger me its loud and cold in those dyno rooms

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Now the P1 is back to normal and the body has been detailed I need to attack the engine bay. That needs a fair bit of work on it.

Other than 30 minutes on the metal i've cleaned nothing in five months. It's never looked this bad but that will be sorted soon and I'll post up a picture when it's clean.

yeah that looks so dirty....maybe by your standards but still loooks good to me!
just a question...did you ever consider a cosworth inlet manifold?

[Anger]

It's running 2bar Martyn... That's not exactly small boost

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

Originally Posted by Crowman

Nige, its 2.1

Just going by what the man said Mr Crowman. :EVO:

Mind you with that sort of power to weight ratio there isnt going to be much keeping with it. :EVO:

[Skullfudge]

HongKong: I was waiting for the new Cozzy 2.5 motor for P2 but there seems to be a long delay before releasing? Not sure what is going on.
Regarding the P1 no-one knows better than Matt Clark so I leave everything up to him mate.







Graphs

Nige, remember the new turbo will be pulling in more air. The induction is much louder than previous turbo which suggests a large air flow. If I had larger injectors and twin competition fuel pumps I dare say the figures would be much higher but Paul played it safe.

Dont let those figures fool you. It's a fair bit quicker than what it was mate!
On the way home Eureka (passenger) said it was much quicker than his when he was running mid 500's.

I dont understand how these dyno figures work because it doesnt add up.
To be honest I was shocked it never made more on the dyno. I was more shocked when experiencing the results as it pulls like mad (as the graphs suggests.
Look at the incline degree on boost ! and how well it holds.

I'm still puzzled at the 516 ????????? that's the bit that seems strange.

[Granby]

But at the end of the day the bhp & torque figures don't matter, it's how it drives and by going what Clive says hes more than happy with that

Originally Posted by worzel

It's said that SRR would show about 20 extra bhp compared to the rollers at RCM. Not sure how right that is, but there will always be those discrepancies between rollers.

Just out of interest, what was the ambient temp in the room, that has a bearing too.

Cracking graphs though mate

Will be good to compare Bluebugeys at Jrm/Sumo on the 19th. Ive told them one of the cars will be at SRR 3days before Sumo. I havent said who's car it is.

As our erstwhile Northern moderator has always said, it's not about numbers really, it's all about what the "bum dyno" tells you.

Originally Posted by Nige

Will be good to compare Bluebugeys at Jrm/Sumo on the 19th. Ive told them one of the cars will be at SRR 3days before Sumo. I havent said who's car it is.

That will be interesting indeed

[Skullfudge]

Crowman & Pieman will give you an idea of how the P1 pulled away on the way home last night remembering it was running less than half boost.
When we switched the LC from 0 to 2 it was a totally different ball game and instantly came alive.

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Dont let those figures fool you. It's a fair bit quicker than what it was mate!

Well, I'm far from an expert on big power cars, but I daresay it doesn't matter what the figure you get on the print out says: its how it drives on the road thats the important bit, right? And if it feels quicker (and is noisier!) then it sounds like a success to me!

Thought you said it was 2.1 .My mistake

[Skullfudge]

It is a 2.1 not 2.2

[AndyWRX]

Very impressive mate looks great

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Crowman & Pieman will give you an idea of how the P1 pulled away on the way home last night remembering it was running less than half boost.
When we switched the LC from 0 to 2 it was a totally different ball game and instantly came alive.

Yep, windows open for the first half mile so we could hear the old girl.
2nd time you booted it, it looked and sounded fantastic

Ah but did you average 62mpg like my trusty german tractor , used less in the round trip than yours did in the first mapping session

Im not trying to upset people. Ive had my fair share of stick on here with my car. My opinion & just mine say's the figures are low & laggy. Clives bum dyno tells another story. Just as a quick comparison this was mine on an Fp black just a 2 litre


The power is at the wheels now if you + 22/24% to that figure will give you a rough fly figure. Can you see what i mean more bhp more ftlb torque at the same 2bar with less cc & comes in early'r. Mine is no were near that now by the way as the tubby blew up, The fp black uses the same size wheel as Clives. So what im saying is the R&R figure's looks very CONSERVATIVE. Bum dyno all the way for me. When mine goes on the dyno on the 19th you guy's will have a giggle it may just get to 400atw. That's not how it feel's on the road though.
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