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Skullfudge 26-01-2012 03:24 AM

Got my baby back :)
 
YES !! collected the beast today with 580 miles left before taking it back for the mans map :)


Had a brand new GT30 Billet Wheel Turbo fitted along with all new internals, crank etc etc and she sounds good.


Great to hear the rumbles, bangs and pops again !

Anger 26-01-2012 07:42 AM

Great news Clive :)

munk 26-01-2012 07:44 AM

:ok: nice!!

Nige 26-01-2012 07:46 AM

Nice one Clive :EVO:

BIG"E" 26-01-2012 07:48 AM

Nice one Clive.

Happy days :doubleup:

Hongkongfooi 26-01-2012 08:04 AM

At last, great news

majorscooby 26-01-2012 08:23 AM

Pleased for ya fella , enjoy! :wink:

Nige 26-01-2012 08:26 AM

Are you still 2 litre then? :EVO:

Fozzy N 26-01-2012 09:19 AM

That's great News...

Crowman 26-01-2012 09:19 AM

Happy days pal.

Tyler 26-01-2012 09:23 AM

Nice one Clive..

kartingsteve 26-01-2012 09:31 AM

Great news :ok:

Steve_PPP 26-01-2012 09:31 AM

Happy days indeed mate, bet its good to have her back :D

C. J. 26-01-2012 09:31 AM

Good to hear

thepieman 26-01-2012 09:38 AM

Good news matey, driving the car back for the re-map will knock a few of those miles off:five:

Bolesroor 26-01-2012 09:46 AM

Great news +1 :ok:

simba 26-01-2012 10:15 AM

nice one clive

Lucky 26-01-2012 10:20 AM

Cool. Look forward to seeing and hearing it!

Gavsti555 26-01-2012 11:38 AM

That's good news mate

Skullfudge 26-01-2012 12:45 PM

Thanks guys :)

worzel 26-01-2012 12:51 PM

Nice one mate, I bet that was a great journey home :drive:

Granby 26-01-2012 01:01 PM

Great news :-D

Tomma 26-01-2012 01:20 PM

Happy days! I'm sure it was worth the wait!

Skullfudge 26-01-2012 01:24 PM

Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait :)

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

jura11 26-01-2012 01:55 PM

Great news


Jura

tbtstt 26-01-2012 03:08 PM

Great news, look forward to an ALS demonstration soon! :doubleup:

Skullfudge 26-01-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbtstt (Post 119448)
Great news, look forward to an ALS demonstration soon! :doubleup:



ALS Demonstration ?? Anal Loud Sounds ??


Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey :)

tbtstt 26-01-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119451)
Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey :)

I have already heard word of Crowmans eye-watering rear end odour. I think I can live without a live fire demonstration of that. :D

Crowman 26-01-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119451)
ALS Demonstration ?? Anal Loud Sounds ??


Crowman could provide a better demo than I could matey :)

To be sure to be sure

:fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::fart::f art:

worzel 26-01-2012 04:45 PM

ALS :lol:

In Martyns case though, it's more like Anal Love Soup :whistle:

Krissyb 26-01-2012 05:51 PM

If you need an excuse for some running in Miles come over mine for a cuppa mate:doubleup: Major scooby is a few doors down aswel.

Nige 26-01-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119429)
Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait :)

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:

BIG"E" 26-01-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 119471)
Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:


Who are you kidding.

Not me youll still have a dam good go bring on the,

autobahns. :nod:

:EVO::P1::WR1:

or

:P1: :EVO: :WR1:


:lol: :whistle:


:drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive::drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive: :drive:

scixer6r 26-01-2012 06:11 PM

look forward to a demo any time soon,clive are you at rye on the 19 feb?

Skullfudge 26-01-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 119471)
Mmmm 2.2 with a billet 30. I may have had a good chance before. Not anymore though. :EVO:



On 20% it should knock out 600

C. J. 26-01-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119518)
On 20% it should knock out 600

They normaly do on 15% ;)

Mad Paddy 26-01-2012 09:25 PM

great news,

600 will be mental in a P1,bring on the fun

Nige 26-01-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119518)
On 20% it should knock out 600

Well that's at least 100 BhP more than I can muster. 600 bhp in a classic has got to be mental :EVO:

scoobyslayer 26-01-2012 10:45 PM

Great news clive!

I hope that means it will be back in germany in May

SUBARMAN 26-01-2012 11:49 PM

Awesome Clive! Enjoy!!

:SMBLU::SUBARMAN:

Skullfudge 08-02-2012 05:32 PM

COMPETITION TIME :)




Off up RCM at 6 in the morning for a Mans Map :D



Guess the bhp on V Power only


Remember it's now 2.1 and got the new spec GT30 Billet Wheel Turbo (longer blades and compressor wheel is 10% lighter than the first GT30BW.


I have no idea of what power it will achieve but my guess is 538 Bhp




What's yours ?????????

Granby 08-02-2012 05:37 PM

568bhp

belliott 08-02-2012 05:52 PM

555bhp

tbtstt 08-02-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belliott (Post 121169)
555bhp

That would be pretty cool!

550 BHP

thepieman 08-02-2012 06:20 PM

Be lucky if it turns the rollers:whistle:

;)

worzel 08-02-2012 06:37 PM

560 for me!

Fozzy N 08-02-2012 06:45 PM

Does the winner win a ride in it with you?

545

Tomma 08-02-2012 07:04 PM

548 be my guess!

impreza27 08-02-2012 08:02 PM

561bhp

Skullfudge 08-02-2012 08:03 PM

Yep. winner gets a raggin' :)

Hongkongfooi 08-02-2012 08:10 PM

556 bhp

majorscooby 08-02-2012 08:32 PM

564 bhp

Crowman 08-02-2012 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=Skullfudge;121196]Yep. winner gets a raggin' :)[

Can I guess tomorrow afternoon :-)

Skullfudge 08-02-2012 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Crowman;121206]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 121196)
Yep. winner gets a raggin' :)[

Can I guess tomorrow afternoon :-)




LOL I was waiting for something from you or Ron LOL

bigemp 08-02-2012 09:15 PM

570

jura11 08-02-2012 09:29 PM

What is exhaust housing on your GT30 Clive?



Jura

Skullfudge 08-02-2012 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 121218)
What is exhaust housing on your GT30 Clive?



Jura



82

jura11 08-02-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 121219)
82

In 82AR exhaust housing i would expect around 560-580bhp

We will see

Jura

Crowman 08-02-2012 10:00 PM

[QUOTE=Skullfudge;121211]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowman (Post 121206)




LOL I was waiting for something from you or Ron LOL

I've been honoured enough to get behind the wheel , that's me satisfied :-)

Hope we can get the hose out quickly before it goes on the rollers :-)

Skullfudge 08-02-2012 10:44 PM

LOL maybe able to mate

Bolesroor 08-02-2012 10:51 PM

540 BHP but I know sweet FA, good luck anyway :ok:would be nice to have a ride though :mrgreen:

Crowman 09-02-2012 05:21 PM

I know , I know , I know

tbtstt 09-02-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowman (Post 121300)
I know , I know , I know

Whose getting the ride then?...

Crowman 09-02-2012 06:15 PM

I will let Mr Fudge answer that :-)

Tomma 09-02-2012 06:32 PM

did anyone hit the nail on the head!?

Skullfudge 09-02-2012 11:26 PM

Long day and got home 30 mins ago.

The P1 was beginning to max out on fuel around the 540 mark and with the broken valve still in mind Paul Blamire done the sensible thing and allowed head room for safety so it's running at 516 now.
Not forgetting it's now 2.1 rather than 2.0. This would have played a part in the fueling maxing out.


Eventually left RCM early evening with Eureka sitting beside me in the P1 and Crowman & Pieman following in Crowmans BMW (company car). All three mates came up with me at 6.30 am.


Just before we left Paul advised me that he had altered the 9 setting Launch Control dial. 0, 1 & 2 were now boost control only with 3-9 set up for LC with increasing rpm as it was before and a less fierce launch if I use 0, 1 or 2.


Drove out of RCM and ITCHING to floor the thing. The roads or traffic didn't allow me to floor it for several miles. Whilst in 3rd I floored it up to 7500, in 4th and back on the floor but had to lift straight away due to a roundabout ahead. It picked up well and felt good but to be honest it wasn't such a big leap as I thought.

Floored it several more times on the way home and then thought mmmmm its still fooking quick though. Floored it in 6th and noticed the red light on the Turbo Boost Defi which isn't uncommon when you have just had work done on your engine, It just needs to be reset which is a 30 second job.

Got ONE mile from my house and Eureka and I were talking about the LC dial so I pulled up. Checked the dial and it was at 0 like it should be unless I'm going to use the LC. I then floored it watching the boost gauge stop at 1.0 bar !!!!!!!

The penny then dropped about what Paul had told us and I turned to dial to 2, floored the thing and all hell broke loose and thought YESSSSSSSSSSS that’s more like my old P1 :001_rolleyes:

The engine does sound different (louder) and the bangs and pops happen a lot more on normal driving.
Haven’t tried the LC / AL yet but that will be noisier go by the engine sound, so if you are thinking of photos or filming with yer phones/cameras stay well back. I fooked 6 microphones on guys phones so far. 

Don't forget the 520 its running at now is V Power only. I still have Meths as an option for a fair bit more power. It's also running in a very safe mode which is good to know.
Will I be using Meths in the future? .......... you know Fudge ;)



Fooking awesome !!!!!!

Crowman 09-02-2012 11:33 PM

Lol, you numpty, bet you thought this doesn't feel that quick.
Excellent day indeed.
And great result mate.

As for gob stopper 2, holly cow , in the flesh , stunning

Kerstin 09-02-2012 11:44 PM

Great result, Clive. :doubleup::doubleup: And it sounds like :P1:vrrrrrmmmmmm, vrrrrrrmmmmmm :grin::grin: Can't wait to see it in the flesh, and hear it, of course. :more::yeah:

jura11 10-02-2012 12:20 AM

520bhp in P1 must be mind blowing,we are running in new age wagon 490bhp and still think is great,but with 520bhp in classic must be something

Good work Clive and really pleased for you

Jura

worzel 10-02-2012 12:52 AM

Great stuff Clive, I'm well chuffed for you mate!

Shame I couldn't join you blokes today, but needs must and all that!

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 01:58 AM

Thanks guys n gals :)

It sounds different (louder) and the bangs and pops are more frequent :)

As MC told me today "the P1 is now optimum for the streets. More power would prove no gain as a road car".

500+ in a 1290kg car that is set up right is scary when driven hard. All passengers develop a huge grin normally followed a word beginning with F :)

ralliart didz 10-02-2012 02:19 AM

well done clive,now wheres the video :whistle:

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 03:29 AM

I will try and make one when I get some time mate :)

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 03:29 AM

Now the P1 is back to normal and the body has been detailed I need to attack the engine bay. That needs a fair bit of work on it.

Other than 30 minutes on the metal i've cleaned nothing in five months. It's never looked this bad but that will be sorted soon and I'll post up a picture when it's clean.



http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...e/PIC_3313.jpg

worzel 10-02-2012 09:28 AM

You could always swing by on Saturday :whistle:

tbtstt 10-02-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 121379)
It sounds different (louder) and the bangs and pops are more frequent :)

Thats the most important thing! :D

Glad you have it back and its still quick! :doubleup:

Fozzy N 10-02-2012 10:01 AM

That's fantastic news, looking forward to seeing it go

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 12:21 PM

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...2012RCMPB4.jpg




http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...2012RCMPB3.jpg





http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...CMPBgraph1.jpg





http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...2012RCMPB2.jpg


RCM's dyno must surely be very conservative as the P1 is certainly faster ???
It feels much quicker than 516

worzel 10-02-2012 12:37 PM

It's said that SRR would show about 20 extra bhp compared to the rollers at RCM. Not sure how right that is, but there will always be those discrepancies between rollers.

Just out of interest, what was the ambient temp in the room, that has a bearing too.

Cracking graphs though mate :ok:

Crowman 10-02-2012 12:45 PM

The ambient temp was about minus bloomin 10. well thats how it felt. Bloomin freezing.

I woosed off and sat on the comfy sofas in the warm

C. J. 10-02-2012 12:59 PM

Holds boost well .
Only one way to find out about rollers is go see Charlie ;)

Nige 10-02-2012 01:11 PM

Now dont jump down my kneck! I would of thought a RCM built 2.2,Gt30 billet wheel tubby with an 82 housing should be making more than that. Especialy running that sort of boost. Maybe your right Clive & you have got a conservative R&R figure. Only one way to find out Charlie's or Jrm's. :EVO:

Crowman 10-02-2012 01:31 PM

Nige, its 2.1

Crowman 10-02-2012 01:35 PM

was interesting to watch it mapped, i know sod all about mapping , but looked like a very methodical process with gradual tweaks over a good few hours.
Speaking to paul, he said he could give Clive some larger dyno figures by upping boost etc , but would not leave it running so close to the limit as far as fuelling goes, so whats the point.

Bugger me its loud and cold in those dyno rooms

Hongkongfooi 10-02-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 121386)
Now the P1 is back to normal and the body has been detailed I need to attack the engine bay. That needs a fair bit of work on it.

Other than 30 minutes on the metal i've cleaned nothing in five months. It's never looked this bad but that will be sorted soon and I'll post up a picture when it's clean.



http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...e/PIC_3313.jpg

yeah that looks so dirty....maybe by your standards but still loooks good to me!
just a question...did you ever consider a cosworth inlet manifold?

Anger 10-02-2012 01:43 PM

It's running 2bar Martyn... That's not exactly small boost

Nige 10-02-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 119429)
Thanks Gents and yes it was worth the wait :)

I can start attending SES events now.


Nige it's no longer a 2.0 Ltr but what they call RCM 2.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowman (Post 121444)
Nige, its 2.1

Just going by what the man said Mr Crowman. :EVO:

Nige 10-02-2012 01:55 PM

Mind you with that sort of power to weight ratio there isnt going to be much keeping with it. :EVO:

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 01:57 PM

HongKong: I was waiting for the new Cozzy 2.5 motor for P2 but there seems to be a long delay before releasing? Not sure what is going on.
Regarding the P1 no-one knows better than Matt Clark so I leave everything up to him mate.







Graphs

Nige, remember the new turbo will be pulling in more air. The induction is much louder than previous turbo which suggests a large air flow. If I had larger injectors and twin competition fuel pumps I dare say the figures would be much higher but Paul played it safe.

Dont let those figures fool you. It's a fair bit quicker than what it was mate!
On the way home Eureka (passenger) said it was much quicker than his when he was running mid 500's.

I dont understand how these dyno figures work because it doesnt add up.
To be honest I was shocked it never made more on the dyno. I was more shocked when experiencing the results as it pulls like mad (as the graphs suggests.
Look at the incline degree on boost ! and how well it holds.

I'm still puzzled at the 516 ????????? that's the bit that seems strange.

Granby 10-02-2012 02:06 PM

But at the end of the day the bhp & torque figures don't matter, it's how it drives and by going what Clive says hes more than happy with that :ok:

Nige 10-02-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel (Post 121436)
It's said that SRR would show about 20 extra bhp compared to the rollers at RCM. Not sure how right that is, but there will always be those discrepancies between rollers.

Just out of interest, what was the ambient temp in the room, that has a bearing too.

Cracking graphs though mate :ok:

Will be good to compare Bluebugeys at Jrm/Sumo on the 19th. Ive told them one of the cars will be at SRR 3days before Sumo. I havent said who's car it is. :ok:

worzel 10-02-2012 02:09 PM

As our erstwhile Northern moderator has always said, it's not about numbers really, it's all about what the "bum dyno" tells you. :drive:

worzel 10-02-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 121455)
Will be good to compare Bluebugeys at Jrm/Sumo on the 19th. Ive told them one of the cars will be at SRR 3days before Sumo. I havent said who's car it is. :ok:

That will be interesting indeed :nod:

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 02:13 PM

Crowman & Pieman will give you an idea of how the P1 pulled away on the way home last night remembering it was running less than half boost.
When we switched the LC from 0 to 2 it was a totally different ball game and instantly came alive.

tbtstt 10-02-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge
Dont let those figures fool you. It's a fair bit quicker than what it was mate!

Well, I'm far from an expert on big power cars, but I daresay it doesn't matter what the figure you get on the print out says: its how it drives on the road thats the important bit, right? And if it feels quicker (and is noisier!) then it sounds like a success to me! :-D

Crowman 10-02-2012 02:33 PM

Thought you said it was 2.1 .My mistake

Skullfudge 10-02-2012 02:40 PM

It is a 2.1 not 2.2

AndyWRX 10-02-2012 02:40 PM

Very impressive mate looks great :-)

Crowman 10-02-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 121458)
Crowman & Pieman will give you an idea of how the P1 pulled away on the way home last night remembering it was running less than half boost.
When we switched the LC from 0 to 2 it was a totally different ball game and instantly came alive.

Yep, windows open for the first half mile so we could hear the old girl.
2nd time you booted it, it looked and sounded fantastic

Ah but did you average 62mpg like my trusty german tractor , used less in the round trip than yours did in the first mapping session:wink:

Nige 10-02-2012 02:44 PM

Im not trying to upset people. Ive had my fair share of stick on here with my car. My opinion & just mine say's the figures are low & laggy. Clives bum dyno tells another story. Just as a quick comparison this was mine on an Fp black just a 2 litre

http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u...aveRowe008.jpg
The power is at the wheels :twisted: now if you + 22/24% to that figure will give you a rough fly figure. Can you see what i mean more bhp more ftlb torque at the same 2bar with less cc & comes in early'r. Mine is no were near that now by the way as the tubby blew up, The fp black uses the same size wheel as Clives. So what im saying is the R&R figure's looks very CONSERVATIVE. Bum dyno all the way for me. When mine goes on the dyno on the 19th you guy's will have a giggle it may just get to 400atw. That's not how it feel's on the road though.
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