Wayne`s World.

[Bolesroor]

Hi,
As some of you know our wagon `Wayne` (apologies but Liz names all the cars) has had overheating issues.

A recent trip to Carnetix to investigate has today confirmed the worse and maybe more?

Glenn rang to talk me through whats been found,HG definately + rust and for permission to continue stripping as there are traces of copper filings in the oil

He has his suspicions but wants to confirm first.

Some pictures,







I`ll update as and when

[Bytes]

Ouch Hope it doesn't turn out to be a complete disaster ...

[Ginola]

Hope the bill is not too scary to fix it dude, its such a lovely wagon, time for a 2.1?

[Hongkongfooi]

Shame Steve. Hope it comes back fitter

[Granby]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Hope the bill is not too scary to fix it dude, its such a lovely wagon, time for a 2.1?

Totally

[Lucky]

Not good Steve

Where did he find Rust? It didn't seem to have any rust, not visually anyway. I remember Brent saying how clean it was underneath.

What do the copper filings point too?

As the others have said, its a great wagon, just such a shame its had this happen.

[Red Baron]

Rust appears to be in the water jacket, not on the car itself so not something you'd have known about Steve.

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Rust appears to be in the water jacket, not on the car itself so not something you'd have known about Steve.

Glenn had grief with some of the bolts, he sent that picture to illustrate what he was saying.

Although not confirmed he says there might be crank/bearing issues hence further stripping

Just one of those things that Subaru ownership can throw at you I guess.

Thanks for the comments, really appreciate them,would love to upgrade but as I was reminded yesterday that was never the intention and was supposed to be used as a daily commute

Had been hoping to sort some of the minor cosmetic issues with the car but will just have to wait a bit longer

Cheers
Steve

[Bolesroor]

Confirmation today on where the copper filings came from to quote Glenn " The bearings are down to the copper on cylinder 3. Not damaged the rod and I think the crank will be fine".





Picture of one of the bolts that had to be drilled out.


Discussing Monday on what to do next

[BIG"E"]

Stuck between a rock and a hard place comes to mind,

Good luck with what ever you decide..

[Hongkongfooi]

If you rebuild it at least forge it Steve just for safety

[Lucky]

Agreed. Forged and a decent map to around 300 and that will be one sorted Wagon.

[Banstead Stig]

That's a real shame to see.

Hopefully you're back up and running soon without too much wallet intrusion.

They do say "don't replace, upgrade", but cost and use has to determine whether that makes sense or not.

Best of luck getting it sorted.

[Ginola]

It has forged pistons already..

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Ginola

It has forged pistons already..

That's what I thought too.....
STi 8 short engine from a good breakers would be a cheaper solution.

[Bolesroor]

Update.....

After a long conversation with Becky and Glenn at Carnetix today and ultimately with Liz going ahead with rebuild of sorts.

We talked options and power upgrades but as I was reminded again why I bought the car I wont be chasing figures but I do want to get to as near factory spec or a bit more which after researching is supposed to be around 280?

Heads and block being skimmed this week ready for head gaskets. New bearings ordered.

Rods,crank and pistons are all ok and pistons confirmed `forged`(thanks Dave and Scott).

Clutch and cambelt all good. Manifold being shot blasted and repainted.

New MOT as due. Glenn said "It`s a nice wagon, getting rarer being an sti so worth doing in his opinion" and we agree Just need to find the funds,kidney anyone?

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Update.....
-P Just need to find the funds,kidney anyone?

You will have to H's house keeping

[Bolesroor]

Update from Carnetix, "Parts came back from the machinists today so I will start assembly".

[Ginola]

Excellent news ) look at those nicely decked block halves

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Excellent news ) look at those nicely decked block halves

look's sweet

[Bolesroor]

[Ginola]

That looks great nice and clean!

[Hongkongfooi]

coming along nicely!

[Lucky]

I can see the blob being used even less

[Bolesroor]

Not long now fingers crossed

[Ginola]

Nice )

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Nice )

Cheers Dave.

[scotty]

Looking good I think that motorbike is a bit wee for you lol .

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by scotty

Looking good I think that motorbike is a bit wee for you lol .

Just a bit , I`ll have to enquire about it when its collection time

[Bolesroor]

Update,

Engine running and road tested by Glenn (engine builder) no issues. Just need MOT done prior to collection but before I do I would value your opinions please on the following as I want it sorted whilst the car is still with them.

The front nearside shock is leaking (previously advised by SMD after the Wagon`s last service before I bought it) and confirmed again by Carnetix.

The questions are what to do on the scale of cost versus the benefits?

• Replace front 2 like for like (must do?)?
• Replace all 4(nice to do?)?
• Upgrade to coilovers (would like to do but £££`s)?

A quick look at prices, replacing all 4 with a known make is not a million miles away from a set of BC`s. for example imo.

Am I right to assume that any replacement on the 3 options that the geometry should be done as well?

Bearing in mind I don`t have the final cost for the build but let`s just say its enough and the car is a keeper at this moment in time I would appreciate any advice

Cheers,
Steve

[scotty]

I would replace all 4 corners just incase one of the back ones decides its had enough and a bloke on snet is selling a set of BC coilovers for £450 on thread Lots of 500+ parts .

[Bolesroor]

Cheers for the reply Scotty, checked out snet ad yesterday but they are provisionally sold, thanks anyway

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Cheers for the reply Scotty, checked out snet ad yesterday but they are provisionally sold, thanks anyway

No worries but there is no harm in asking him if you can get second dibs if the sale fell through as he's a fellow jock I think lol .

[Ginola]

Don't put coil-overs on it unless you want to track it, the "holy grail" of road going classics is a good shock and spring setup, new kyb's and eibach springs worked wonders on my wagon with some new drop links, it made it a real A and B road weapon through South Wales
Although the spring and shock guru on here is silver surfer of course,,, There is something wrong with him when it comes to springs! Also not worth spending out on "cheap" coil-overs..


Glad she is back up and running again ))

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Don't put coil-overs on it unless you want to track it, the "holy grail" of road going classics is a good shock and spring setup, new kyb's and eibach springs worked wonders on my wagon with some new drop links, it made it a real A and B road weapon through South Wales
Although the spring and shock guru on here is silver surfer of course,,, There is something wrong with him when it comes to springs! Also not worth spending out on "cheap" coil-overs..


Glad she is back up and running again ))

Cheers Dave, kyb`s have been mentioned in the conversation,appreciate the feedback

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Ginola

Don't put coil-overs on it unless you want to track it, the "holy grail" of road going classics is a good shock and spring setup, new kyb's and eibach springs worked wonders on my wagon with some new drop links, it made it a real A and B road weapon through South Wales
Although the spring and shock guru on here is silver surfer of course,,, There is something wrong with him when it comes to springs! Also not worth spending out on "cheap" coil-overs..


Glad she is back up and running again ))

Couldn't agree more. My blob is on bc Coilovers and whilst on a smooth sweeping road it's awesome, on normal roads it's too harsh. I'd personally go shocks and springs.

Great to hear it's nearly back steve. With the springs sorted that little wagon will be a blast

[Scott.T]

I might be able to get a set of Bilsteins that are in need of a rebuild.
They can be rebuilt for £80 per corner.

I may even be able to sand blast them before the rebuild ready for paint.

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Couldn't agree more. My blob is on bc Coilovers and whilst on a smooth sweeping road it's awesome, on normal roads it's too harsh. I'd personally go shocks and springs.

Great to hear it's nearly back steve. With the springs sorted that little wagon will be a blast

Thanks Steve

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

I might be able to get a set of Bilsteins that are in need of a rebuild.
They can be rebuilt for £80 per corner.

I may even be able to sand blast them before the rebuild ready for paint.

Thanks for this Scott, I`ve got to call them Tuesday afternoon,I`ll put this on the list and give you a pm in the evening if that`s ok?
Cheers,
Steve

[Scott.T]

Can't go too far wrong with these for the money :

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b0s2611...TO_2000_Import

I am also partly involved with getting sets of lowered (10mm lower the P1) springs matched for these shocks, fresh from Eibach.

[Hongkongfooi]

i know scott refurbed my p1 suspension...dont know whether he is selling?

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

i know scott refurbed my p1 suspension...dont know whether he is selling?

Sold them already. Turned down good money for them too, and only got £191 on ebay ......you win some you lose some........

[Ginola]

Those shocks with some new springs living the dream

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Thanks for this Scott, I`ve got to call them Tuesday afternoon,I`ll put this on the list and give you a pm in the evening if that`s ok?
Cheers,
Steve

Just spoke to the guy and I think we are talking about £100 for the essentially scrap Bilsteins. I need to find out a little more about the extent to which Bilstein can rebuild them to make sure they are 'refurbishable'.

[Bolesroor]

Update,
Small leak on rad discovered so having this replaced.

Today received costs for changing shocks, springs + alignment so now need to decide what to do next?

I can either bring the car home as is and wait and save up or just have the fronts done but leave the springs or change the fronts with new springs, have all 4 done and leave the springs,have all 4 done with new springs,fit std kyb`s or go ultra`s with Eibach springs or coilovers are still an option.
I have had guidence from our resident respected spring guru and equally value the other comments + just read RCM`s write-up on the BC`s they sell. I need to lie down )

Think I`m going to sleep on it.

Dave were your kyb`s std?

[Lucky]

If I remember rightly the springs are H&R which are good springs and the car sits at just the right height in my opinion.. Maybe just change the shocks if the springs are still in good condition? Drive it a while and see how it feels and if you feel the need later to change the springs do it then.

At the end of the day mate the speed you and me drive around the ring we could probably get away with no springs at all

[Bolesroor]

At the end of the day mate the speed you and me drive around the ring we could probably get away with no springs at all [/QUOTE]

Toying with the idea of getting one of these fitted just to warn others?

[Bolesroor]

Car is ready for collection
Had kyb `ultra`s` fitted with eibach springs in the end




Picking up on Thursday

[scotty]

I bet you cant wait only a few more days to go and you will be driving a sorted wagon Steve .

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by scotty

I bet you cant wait only a few more days to go and you will be driving a sorted wagon Steve .

Yep,daily drive has been Liz`s Disco. It just does not have the same feel in the corners as the wagon ,even at my speeds before anyone remarks.