What car to get next or just not bother ?

RobEvo5 · #1 30-09-2010, 06:20 PM

Currently love my classic its quick enough, I don't run scared of it, not really bored of it, makes sense in the current economic climate to keep it, and have winter looming so the 4wd, salt etc makes sense as well.

But I just fancy a change, I'm stressed out my head and need something to remind me why I do what I do. Money is gaining no interest in the bank so figure I might as well get something to put a bigger smile on my face and make me feel alive.... What do I get.?

Budget Ideally around 10K and would really like to keep around this, but could be stretched to 25K for something that would blow my socks off, but really don't think I can justify much more than 10K tied up as a toy for me.

Critiera is there is none but ideally not another scoob, we have a family car so this is purely to make me feel alive and have fun in. Although that said I suppose a 4 seater might be nice just in case the family motor ever broke down, but its not enough of an issue to even factor really.

My current short list is an S1 Turbo charged elise with 220bhp or a 1999 Audi S4 with 460/500. I Can't think of much else that could top either of these. My only concern however on both of these are they are fairly specialist the Audi does not have CATS so would both me knowing I might have problems come MOT time, and the Elise is running a fairly comprehensive engine conversion. That said the base engine on the Elise is nothing special.

This would be a daily driver, but for the miles I do I'm happy with something as hardcore as an elise, and as a total toy I'm leaning towards the elise.

And before all the wise cracks I appreciate I have pretty much tried everything, but I'm tired of chop changing and really am looking for something to keep, and have fun with. Both to drive and perhaps tinker with.

The conclusion and answer might be as I fear just keep what i have, and just get more use out of it i.e track days etc. But I'm looking to explore what other options might be out there.

Any thoughts suggestions welcome. Cheers

Mr Windscreen · #2 30-09-2010, 07:59 PM

Lancia Delta Integrale?

BIG"E" · #3 30-09-2010, 08:14 PM

Its got to be the ELISE.

#4 30-09-2010, 10:01 PM

Exige all the way Rob. I know it doesn't give you the seats, but as you say, you already have a family car.

OR!

How about picking up a VX220 and tricking it out?

Though, I do admit, when you say Lancia Delta Integrale.......... that gives me a semi!

Hongkongfooi · #5 30-09-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by worzel

Exige all the way Rob. I know it doesn't give you the seats, but as you say, you already have a family car.

OR!

How about picking up a VX220 and tricking it out?

Though, I do admit, when you say Lancia Delta Integrale.......... that gives me a semi!

Good call Steve on the exige....I borrowed an exige S and it was AMAZING (just a b*stard to get in and out)

How about tvr? I have had two and put big smiles on face each and every time!

VXR8 with supercharger conv?

E30 M3...will keep its value and is as cool as hell!

chris wrx · #6 30-09-2010, 10:16 PM

Nice mk11 escort ?

Scott.T · #7 30-09-2010, 10:23 PM

Elise mate....but only cause i haven't driven one. If you get one I know i'll get the chance. Your vx220 for me was the most fun car you had. So the elise would be a hoot. A good track tool too.

belliott · #8 30-09-2010, 10:29 PM

monaro all day long, whack a better supercharger on there and enjoy some good old fashioned oz fun.

RobEvo5 · #9 30-09-2010, 10:52 PM

Have done the TVR thing and did like it allot, but I couldn't get past the bad build quality, reliability and kit car thing, but the sound and feel good factor was great and in truth if I could buy back the one I sold for the same price i would have it tomorrow. But its one of those cars where all the good ones are held onto....

Done a VX220 turbo stage 2 and liked it, apart from being a pig to get in and out, but when ever an elise past me, I wished I had the elise over the VX despite the VX having lots more power. The S1 Elise is such a pretty looking car with great lines and have always had a love for them even in standard form.

Intergrali, and E30 M3 all great but couldnt be doing with the LHD.

I'll be honest as say Its a bit gay, and prententious but these days its as much about feeling good about what ever I'm driving as it is about the driving experience, and don't think the S4 would tick that box, so short list is still the elise.

Would love a supercharged exige, but out of budget.

I Had thought about another S2000, and seen a nice yellow one with smart alloys, but due to lack of torque didn't feel that quick as all.

I Had thought about a Boxter 'S' which get good reviews in terms of its capabilities, and also a 3.0 Z4 or if I could find one at sensible money a Z3M. And even the Z4M is fast becoming a good but and depreciation proof. All nice, but a turbo charged elise still trumps all of these as a proper toy car.

scooby999 · #10 30-09-2010, 11:21 PM

My brothers lancia ,bit pricey now though

Scottie :) · #11 01-10-2010, 12:50 AM

Supercharged atom think its 400/500bhp i think you would just be grateful to get to work alive lol

2-jaffacake-tone · #12 01-10-2010, 01:24 AM

vectra gsi estate what a wepon!!! You could trick it right up wiv shopping list down the front wing.

#13 01-10-2010, 09:42 AM

What about a nice a nice 05 plate E46 M3 with SMG

Good price to a fellow SES member

Hongkongfooi · #14 01-10-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by worzel

What about a nice a nice 05 plate E46 M3 with SMG

Good price to a fellow SES member

then supercharge it!

#15 01-10-2010, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

What about a nice a nice 05 plate E46 M3 with SMG

Good price to a fellow SES member

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

then supercharge it!

Keep em coming Tim...... I can here some salivating coming from the coast

RobEvo5 · #16 01-10-2010, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

What about a nice a nice 05 plate E46 M3 with SMG

Good price to a fellow SES member

Mate don't tempt me. When I keep putting 'me sensible head on'

- I keep looking at them and considering them as well. I would definately want the SMG if were to get another one. Just don't thing it would be enough of a toy though, but it ticks the boxes in most other departments.

But as soon as I start considering the E46 M3, I then start looking at 335I's which would be better as it can be a saloon, younger and more main stream. But niether are what I would call toys. Just very nice all round cars.

#17 01-10-2010, 02:15 PM

As per our previous posts with regards to my M3.

It does tick virtually every box possible, but in all honesty, I agree totally that it is not the "toy" that you think it should be.

It is a great car without a shadow of a doubt, but if you are looking for something seriously fun, as you know, this ain't it. Although the SMG box is a joy to drive quickly

If you did fancy it though, its going for a very good price.

2005 (05) - M3 E46 SMG
46,000 miles (next service 8000 in miles)
Full dealer service history (with 1200 mile crucial stamp)
Leather throughout (heated fronts)
Harman Kardon Upgraded Stereo
Freeview TV / Sat nav
Very clean example

1 Minor issue, 1 scuffed alloy

£16,750 ono (I am putting it up for £17,500 next week on auto trader)

WRX_Paul · #18 01-10-2010, 02:38 PM

Audi RS4

#19 01-10-2010, 03:02 PM

EVO simples!!! If it's looks then the gay Lotus. Also Hawkeye Sti should be on your list Rob as you like your money's worth.

RobEvo5 · #20 01-10-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige

EVO simples!!! If it's looks then the gay Lotus. Also Hawkeye Sti should be on your list Rob as you like your money's worth.

Good observation and assessment of me - Yes forgot to add I do like good value for money and residuals. I don't mind spending the money whether its £1K, £10K or £30K so long as its in relative terms good value.

And as nice as the Evo is, the scoob wins every time for me when it comes to value for money.

Hawkeye great suggestion and really like them, but it wouldn't push my buttons enough to justify the extra its going to cost me over what I already have.

RobEvo5 · #21 01-10-2010, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worzel

If you did fancy it though, its going for a very good price.

2005 (05) - M3 E46 SMG
46,000 miles (next service 8000 in miles)
Full dealer service history (with 1200 mile crucial stamp)
Leather throughout (heated fronts)
Harman Kardon Upgraded Stereo
Freeview TV / Sat nav
Very clean example

1 Minor issue, 1 scuffed alloy

£16,750 ono (I am putting it up for £17,500 next week on auto trader)

ooooh. ! that is allot of car for not allot of money..... GLWTS and will give it some thought, but I don't think its the direction I want to go.

#22 01-10-2010, 03:33 PM

It's keenly priced for a quick sale really mate.

If you fancy a test blat, even just to get it out of your mind, just let me know.

RobEvo5 · #23 01-10-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WRX_Paul

Audi RS4

Nice cars, but good ones are expensive now for a 2001 car with best part of 100K miles.

but the idea of a RS4 takes me back to my initial short list of considerations which was S4 running RS4 mods pushing out 460bhp/500ft/lb. The S4 in question could be had for my car and approx 4K. Which is very good value when you consider it from a pounds per BHP perspective - It would be quick, but would it be as much FUN as say the elise, or any of the many 2 seater toys out there.

If its to be a 2 seater toy i've pretty much decided budget needs to be around 10K, if its something the family can get in and appreciate at times then don't mind upping the budget.

#24 01-10-2010, 04:33 PM

And as nice as the Evo is, the scoob wins every time for me when it comes to value for money.
Good point. Thing is & i dont quite understand why. If you put the right parts to an Evo they go up in value add RS or MR range to that & you cant really lose. If it was me buying it would have to give some serious thought to a E46 M3 supercharged. Like you say it ticks allot of box's in std form with 480bhp it's a box i wouldn't mind being in. As you say the money side of things can be increased,family & fun car all rolled into one. You got me thinking now! Anyone fancy an Evo 1 elderly owner fsh only light use on the Sunday church run.

DukeBoy · #25 01-10-2010, 11:24 PM

Does it really matter what you get.........

it will be up for sale next week anyway!!!

#26 01-10-2010, 11:33 PM

I would love another lancia,cant beleive the price of the Evo's now.
The handling was stunning,not particularly quick as standard but great fun.
Out of everything mentioned so far,i personally would go for the Audi,but thats because im getting old and fragile after my last crash.
I still want an RS4,20 to 22k buys a stunning one.

Wouldnt it be nice to have enough dosh to have a selection

RobEvo5 · #27 02-10-2010, 05:09 PM

Got up this morning with a view to doing a deal on the S4, phoned him at its sold

This was it, deal was my car and 4k - Would have been good but not meant to be.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1791826.htm.

Ended up buying a writing desk and building it for my daughter instead....

All deflated now, so might go back to just keeping the Scoob over winter then think again later on, or even toyed with complete change of direction and just putting the money towards upgrading our current family motor to a really nice family car, and just keep my scoob as a work horse,hack.

RobEvo5 · #28 02-10-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowman

Wouldnt it be nice to have enough dosh to have a selection

I think thats my problem, depending on mood, pleasure or business, how well work is doing, family or on my own, all affects what I fancy driving and how I fancy driving.

If only Carlsberg made cars

BIG"E" · #29 02-10-2010, 05:32 PM

How about this one Rob??

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2019448.htm

Looks mint.

Scott.T · #30 02-10-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG"E"

How about this one Rob??

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2019448.htm

Looks mint.

Nice, but how much fuel does one of those drink...4.2l has gotta hurt.

#31 02-10-2010, 07:06 PM

Looks fantastic & not a bad price.

#32 03-10-2010, 12:01 AM

Rob would get bored quickly of the V8 S4 unless its been well played with.
Lets face it you would always want the RS4
Both are only good for very low double figure MPG when driven

I have just got a new job and i get a company car,which is good but i really wanted a budget so i could get an RS4 by adding my own dosh

Now got to decide do i take the Audi A5 or the 3 series bmw

#33 03-10-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowman

Rob would get bored quickly of the V8 S4 unless its been well played with.
Lets face it you would always want the RS4
Both are only good for very low double figure MPG when driven

I have just got a new job and i get a company car,which is good but i really wanted a budget so i could get an RS4 by adding my own dosh

Now got to decide do i take the Audi A5 or the 3 series bmw

A5 i think Mmmmm hard choice the BM is a very good car. Congrats on the new job mate. That didnt take long.

BIG"E" · #34 03-10-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowman

I have just got a new job

Now got to decide do i take the Audi A5 or the 3 series bmw

Well done mate.

Its got to be the beemer.

#35 03-10-2010, 12:15 AM

Thanks guys
Southern area installation manager for ROMEC, rather pleased.
Mind you two intense interviews which tested the old grey matter.

I have no idea what spec the 3 series will be either,i dont get to spec it.
So no MSport like the last one.

#36 03-10-2010, 12:26 AM

No deffo the Audi it is a bit nice kit & looks the part.

#37 03-10-2010, 12:36 AM

This
http://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/a5/a5-sportback.html
Or This
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/index/0,,...tSource=topnav

Sorry Rob, hijacked your thread.

Steve_PPP · #38 03-10-2010, 11:12 AM

Audi, you've just got rid of a beemer so time for a change!

scooby999 · #39 03-10-2010, 11:27 AM

audi all the way
Congrats on the new job,when are you hiring???

RobEvo5 · #40 03-10-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowman

Sorry Rob, hijacked your thread.

No worries, I'm a lost cause and just going round in circles anyway so I give up at the moment. But will be looking at another S2000 this afteroon thats local. But failing that I'll take some time out and think again later.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

Yellow is not everyones cup of tea but with the alloys looks smart IMO - lots of smiles for not allot of dosh and might be able to keep the scoob as well with this.

Love the A5, neighbour up the road has and really looks the part, and next door has a series. The 3 series just looks bland and boring by comparision. Both nice cars though, but my choice would be the audi.

Now look what you've done and gone. you me thinking about fast executive saloons again for me v's a toy..... Aaaaaarrrrgggggg. Help me!! I need therapy.

BIG"E" · #41 03-10-2010, 12:47 PM

How about this one Rob??

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2019448.htm

You know you want it.

RobEvo5 · #42 03-10-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

How about this one Rob??

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2019448.htm

You know you want it.

Wrong colour too brash IMO, but I do like the 4.2L varient if not just for the sound of them, but interiors are still very dated on this year, and as Scott pointed out drink like a fish. Would sooner have the older twin turbo 2.7L variety.

BIG"E" · #43 03-10-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RobEvo5

Wrong colour too brash IMO, but I do like the 4.2L varient if not just for the sound of them, but interiors are still very dated on this year, and as Scott pointed out drink like a fish. Would sooner have the older twin turbo 2.7L variety.

The sound of the V8s are awesome, dont worry about the colour as you never keep one long enough for anyone to see you.
As for the petrol just make sure it comes with a full tank when the petrol runs out the car will go anyway.

#44 04-10-2010, 07:47 PM

Just in case you are thinking 3 series still.

Scott.T · #45 04-10-2010, 09:20 PM

LOL at Worzel......so when's Rob picking it up then ?

Hongkongfooi · #46 04-10-2010, 09:45 PM

crikey steve you had it valeted? it looks mint!

Skullfudge · #47 04-10-2010, 09:53 PM

These Classics of ours can be awfully good fun with some money spent on them over time!

Could try a P1?

Like we all day in the P1woc, you don't realise how different a P1 is until you have driven one! and the potential is crazy.

Just an optional thought

Skullfudge · #48 04-10-2010, 09:55 PM

Is that your M3 Steve ?

Steve_PPP · #49 04-10-2010, 10:05 PM

lol, all shiny for a new buyer eh Worzel? looks stunning in the pics, almost makes me want something german!

#50 05-10-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Is that your M3 Steve ?

It is mate

Just gave it a quick wash for the pics. Putting it on Autotrader today.

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