Rolling road day 14th March 2009

Im picking Big e up and meeting Scott at the Elva for 8am & i think scooby wez. Then off dwn the A21, M25 then lost. Ha! Ha!

[Gonza]

Should be at PP for 9. If we miss you though for one reason or another we can meet you there. So don't wait around too long...

P.S. Are we completely full or could we squeeze one more in? My dad (DelBoy) is thinking of bringing his along... This time with the correct fuel!! lol

Matey, we probably won't leave until 20 past to half past 9 anyway.

[Gonza]

Top stuff... oooh I do love a convoy!!

Snap matey!

guys . Bring all your spare change please. I am having little collection for red nose day. . Many thanks

Will do old fruity!

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by worzel

Matey, we probably won't leave until 20 past to half past 9 anyway.

Were leaving at 9.15 as its not a race

[SUBARMAN]

Many thanks to CJ for organising this!! Looking forward to the figures.

I thought Scott's were excellent!

I got 311 bhp and 322 lb ft. As Bob Rawle predicted, figures were down on both compared with last week's mapping on the road (322/333). Charlie said the fuel and boost were spot on, but that the timing was "safe", so more to exploit there perhaps.....................

[majorscooby]

I was well chuffed today standard its only 224bhp and with Magnex cat back pipe, Bailey dump valve and a Green cotton panel filter i got 251.8bhp!!! GET IN THERE

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

I was well chuffed today standard its only 224bhp and with Magnex cat back pipe, Bailey dump valve and a Green cotton panel filter i got 251.8bhp!!! GET IN THERE

damn good result that was

somehow i managed to get 1 bhp less than last time, after decatting the uppipe and removing the resonator section in the exhaust was hoping for a little more but never mind eh catted downpipes gotta go i think

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

damn good result that was

somehow i managed to get 1 bhp less than last time, after decatting the uppipe and removing the resonator section in the exhaust was hoping for a little more but never mind eh catted downpipes gotta go i think

Shame fella i was gutted for ya!!!!

[Steve_PPP]

photo time tried to get everyones scoob (i think i did) but apologies if i missed anyone.

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[Steve_PPP]

And some formation parking!

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A couple of things to say ,cheers CJ for organising the day,Cheers Worzel for taking me and Rob for your dohnut.
Quick vid on way up there.

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Nige and BigE

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C.J
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C.J on the rollers - Best of the Day - About 400bhp

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Keiths superb wagon ready to run

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Keiths 1st run - Belive he made 311BHP - Nice one

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The wagon squadrons top secret wind tunnell - Shhh

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Scott's imaculate Classic ready to run

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Scott wondering if his tweaks will do the biz

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Great figures Scott

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1st time on the rollers for Rich's great looking wagon

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He looks worried - No need he made over 250BHP - Great for standard car

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Nigel's nicely sorted sti - Love the FMIC

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Worzels ready to run - Clean your engine young man

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Great job with the banner Worzel

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Its alive

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[RobEvo5]

Great pics - shame it was all a bit of a rush for me, and didn't really get chance to touch base with some of you and put faces to names. But good fun all the same, will have to come along to one of the summer meets have a proper natter....

Great pics lads!

The tripod in the air really worked well Steve, great idea.

And as for Rob's donut Priceless

Great day had by all.

[SUBARMAN]

Great pics from Steve and Martyn!! Aerial shots (on a stick) superb - banner superb - and the last pic of martyn - well -

[BIG"E"]

Good pictures boys,

Cheers CJ.


I did wonder who the pig was modeled on, now I know

While I remember it, many thanks to Scott today. Made me feel a lot better about my figures.

And like Nige, the boost does drop off at around 6000 in 3rd but holds it all the way to the redline in 4th - 5th - 6th, if he had done it 4th as we thought, it may have been slightly different But, hey ho. Still feels bloody good.

Going to take it to PE with Martyn when he gets his back on the road and see if it makes a difference. But as Scott says, it could be made to give good roller figures with minimal work that would actually give me no benefits anywhere else. So not really worth it.

Bring on the ring!


CJ

Many thanks fella for arranging the day, all went like clockwork. Well done

[BIG"E"]

THANK YOU

Nige for taking me.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by worzel

While I remember it, many thanks to Scott today. Made me feel a lot better about my figures.

And like Nige, the boost does drop off at around 6000 in 3rd but holds it all the way to the redline in 4th - 5th - 6th, if he had done it 4th as we thought, it may have been slightly different But, hey ho. Still feels bloody good.

Glad to help/advise, just a shame I can't adjust your map due to ECUTEK lockout. I can sort Nige's in less time then it takes to fire up the laptop but will probably leave it until the next mod/map or somewhere in Germany !!!!!

I think you have both come to the right conclusion i.e it holds boost well on the road (unlike the dyno), so just enjoy and forget the Dyno figure, just go with your road Dyno's.
They do have a tendancy to do this some times, and there are many a post on other forums where target boost on dyno is a fair bit less then on road.

Very pleased with my result today, last time was 305 and was hoping for similar or maybe 320 with the mods I have made (Silicon Induction as old OE one split, Apexi Power Intake and a touch leaner), so 335 was a real bonus. Just goes to show what a UK can do with some matched mods

Lastly thanks to Charlie at SRR and CJ for organising.

[Scooby Wez]

As this was my first trip out i had a really great day Nice to meet some of you at last.I was pleased with mine as it has 147k thought it would go bang but instead made 236.5 bhp/236.5 lb ft Quite happily i was told there is more there if i get the fueling sorted/re-map but it's nice and safe at the moment and i think i am going to leave it alone as it's quick enough for me Great photo's as well.

[Ratboy]

Great day,nice to see everyone and thanks to CJ...top man.
results 309.7 and 300lbs

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Glad to help/advise, just a shame I can't adjust your map due to ECUTEK lockout. I can sort Nige's in less time then it takes to fire up the laptop but will probably leave it until the next mod/map or somewhere in Germany !!!!!

I think you have both come to the right conclusion i.e it holds boost well on the road (unlike the dyno), so just enjoy and forget the Dyno figure, just go with your road Dyno's.
They do have a tendancy to do this some times, and there are many a post on other forums where target boost on dyno is a fair bit less then on road.

Very pleased with my result today, last time was 305 and was hoping for similar or maybe 320 with the mods I have made (Silicon Induction as old OE one split, Apexi Power Intake and a touch leaner), so 335 was a real bonus. Just goes to show what a UK can do with some matched mods

Lastly thanks to Charlie at SRR and CJ for organising.

Your figures were cracking yesterday matey. I bet you are well chuffed.

Both yours and Keiths scoobs looked spot on Yesterday

[DukeBoy]

Well looks and sounds like everyone had a good day, well done C.J

Gutted i missed it, had the kids this weekend and they wouldn't of liked to be stood up there all day....oh well next time.

Love the banner, great job Worzel

Liking the pictures guys and the results

[DukeBoy]

Originally Posted by Crowman

The wagon squadrons top secret wind tunnell - Shhh

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Is that the original Wagon Wheel???

I didnt like this r&r day one little bit 321bhp my backside In fact my backside dyno tells me more like 360ish After having Cosworth's Previous Evo's & M3's my bum's a very good dyno thank you. Anyway moan over nice to meet some new face's thanks to C.J. for sorting it all out. BIG thanks to Scott for sorting my car.

Originally Posted by BIG E

THANK YOU

Nige for taking me.

NO PROBS MATE. ANYTIME.

[C. J.]

Thanks for the thank you comments but dont think i will bother again

[SUBARMAN]

Originally Posted by DukeBoy

Is that the original Wagon Wheel???

Lol Rich

It's not! But if it was made of chocolate, it might be...................

Originally Posted by C. J.

Thanks for the thank you comments but dont think i will bother again

Why not?

There was nothing wrong with the day you organised. Just because a couple of us aren't happy with the results (and yes I include myself in that ) it doesn't mean the day as a whole was not appreciated.

I was expecting my figures to be down but I know that the ones he gave are wrong. In hindsight, I wish I had asked him to do another run in 4th. I shall just have to take it to PE for a run.

If they come up with the same figures then I will just have to shut up and take it

But I doubt they will, even if we have to have an quick tinker to get the boost holding to the redline.

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by worzel

Why not?

There was nothing wrong with the day you organised. Just because a couple of us aren't happy with the results (and yes I include myself in that ) it doesn't mean the day as a whole was not appreciated.

I was expecting my figures to be down but I know that the ones he gave are wrong. In hindsight, I wish I had asked him to do another run in 4th. I shall just have to take it to PE for a run.

If they come up with the same figures then I will just have to shut up and take it

But I doubt they will, even if we have to have an quick tinker to get the boost holding to the redline.

asked about 4th for 6 speeds and it will not make any or a little differents ( 1 or 2 BHP/Lbs)
if you are that un happy I can arrange for you to go back and I'm sure he'll charge just £35
that way you will get a comparsion between your 4th and 3rd on the same rollers

Martyn is taking his to PE anyway, so I will just go there matey. They can also tweek the map to hold boost a bit longer if I wanted it.

Mate, none of this is a criticism of you. As I said, I still had a good day out. And most people walked away very happy so overall it was a well organised day.

[Scooby Wez]

Mate i had a great day my figures were down on what we thought but it was more of a health check for me,i now know i am running safe but could if i want to get more with a new map.As for PE i phoned them today and was told they are moving at the moment so no dyno for 8-12 weeks (so no mapping)

Cheers for the info Wez. Martyn may have to re-think then.

[DukeBoy]

So what were these low figures then?

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by worzel

Cheers for the info Wez. Martyn may have to re-think then.

can have it mapped at surrey !
just got off the phone to pat my mapper and he said that worzels in 4th would be even less at about 312 to 315 bhp !

[Scooby Wez]

Mine is a Ecutek did not think they could do it at Surrey ??? due to this license business.

[AP]

Originally Posted by Scooby Wez

Mine is a Ecutek did not think they could do it at Surrey ??? due to this license business.

Anything can be mapped at Surrey

[Scooby Wez]

Now i am

[AP]

Originally Posted by Nige

I didnt like this r&r day one little bit 321bhp my backside In fact my backside dyno tells me more like 360ish After having Cosworth's Previous Evo's & M3's my bum's a very good dyno thank you. Anyway moan over nice to meet some new face's thanks to C.J. for sorting it all out. BIG thanks to Scott for sorting my car.

I think you will find your figures just about spot on, Charlie is one of the most qualified RR operators in the business, he has loads of independent testers results in his portfolio..
If you are after pub figures take it to PE, you will come away happy

I think its irelievant what Steves made, its proven that certain settings for road dont seem to allow boost to hold whilst on the rollers.
I am sure if Pat,Bob or scott had an hour with Steves or Nigels car on the rollers they could make the necessary changes to acheive good numbers.
One thing i do know steves car is proper quick on the road, very strong.

CJ its about time you took me out in yours, must be mad, going by how good steves feels.
I not been out in a scoob over 350bhp yet!

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by C. J.

can have it mapped at surrey !
just got off the phone to pat my mapper and he said that worzels in 4th would be even less at about 312 to 315 bhp !

I am certainly no expert but i do have a modicum of common sense.

Something has to wrong here, Bob Rawl is a well respected and very experienced with mapping,
Scott is also experienced .

Bob and Scott surely cant both be wrong to the extent that the figures are indicating,
I know who my money is on.

My scoob when Ive been alongside or behind Worzels, has been equal to or marginally behind, and that was before its latest remap.
( cum to think of it though mines carrying more wieght).

On Saturday on the way to the RR whilst I was passenger with Nige his scoob felt quick!

So unfortunately that means judging by the results my WR1 must running about 285 BHP, or less fooking PRODRIVE.

There must be something wrong with the results!!!

[C. J.]

[quote=BIG E]

Originally Posted by "C. J.":1rrjhg6g

can have it mapped at surrey !
just got off the phone to pat my mapper and he said that worzels in 4th would be even less at about 312 to 315 bhp !

I am certainly no expert but i do have a modicum of common sense.

Something has to wrong here, Bob Rawl is a well respected and very experienced with mapping,
Scott is also experienced .

Bob and Scott surely cant both be wrong to the extent that the figures are indicating,
I know who my money is on.

My scoob when Ive been alongside or behind Worzels, has been equal to or marginally behind, and that was before its latest remap.
( cum to think of it though mines carrying more wieght).

On Saturday on the way to the RR whilst I was passenger with Nige his scoob felt quick!

So unfortunately that means judging by the results my WR1 must running about 285 BHP, or less fooking PRODRIVE.

There must be something wrong with the results!!![/quote:1rrjhg6g]
If you want to find out put the pooh cheap delta dash laptop thing on a car will on the rollers and see what the same run say !

[C. J.]

Originally Posted by Crowman

I think its irelievant what Steves made, its proven that certain settings for road dont seem to allow boost to hold whilst on the rollers.
I am sure if Pat,Bob or scott had an hour with Steves or Nigels car on the rollers they could make the necessary changes to acheive good numbers.
One thing i do know steves car is proper quick on the road, very strong.

CJ its about time you took me out in yours, must be mad, going by how good steves feels.
I not been out in a scoob over 350bhp yet!

you only have to ask .
May be a while as the box is getting changed and will have to wait for the DCCD control to be shipped from the states !
400bhp to the rear wheels for a while !

[simonairheadz]

nothing like a good old rolling road to stir up a bit of power debate............................................ ........
i myself know i have a large p3nis! so i dont feel the need to attend lol.

Originally Posted by C. J.

you only have to ask .
May be a while as the box is getting changed and will have to wait for the DCCD control to be shipped from the states !
400bhp to the rear wheels for a while !

That will be interesting through the rear wheels, dont go out in the wet

Whats the benifit on DCCD, i know sod all about them.

Originally Posted by simonairheadz

nothing like a good old rolling road to stir up a bit of power debate............................................ ........
i myself know i have a large p3nis! so i dont feel the need to attend lol.