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Old 01-03-2013, 10:08 AM
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iv noticed alot of people doing diy jobs on there wheels so think im going to have a go soon.. bit of a dab hand with can so fingers crossed,may go to gloss black.... maybe... any way was after general advice on what paints primers and and techniques is everyone using,or prefer, when doing there wheels, ill be taking the tyres off to do this aswell. thanks
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Why???

Have it done properly with powder coat it will last a lot longer also .
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:42 AM
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iv noticed alot of people doing diy jobs on there wheels so think im going to have a go soon.. bit of a dab hand with can so fingers crossed,may go to gloss black.... maybe... any way was after general advice on what paints primers and and techniques is everyone using,or prefer, when doing there wheels, ill be taking the tyres off to do this aswell. thanks
alright matey ive done a few myself including the deep dish you caught me doin! i used the ally filler for the kerb marks
halfords primer x4 cans
halfords paint x4 cans
halfords chip resistant lacqure x2
its a case of getting back to bare alloy or stripping off the lacqure
fill kerb marks then rub back making sure you go through the grades of wetndry or your end up with lines once youve done that degrease the rims and wash and dry,prime up once dry wet sand the primer and reprime and wet sand till mint, when dry start spraying them up building up slowly! and wet sand if needed i used all the paint up left for a day or 2 ready for laqure, 2 coats of clear job done lol make use its warm and dry when you do it might pay to grab an alloy off connel to practice? or you can always go to aj for£37 a pop or ask russ £50 for a mint job!!!! i can always give a hand! might pay to ask scott for some info he just done a set of ultralights that steve now owns and there mint!
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Powdercoat....and have your wheels snap at some point.
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Powdercoat....and have your wheels snap at some point.
So thats why they are by the manufacturers ??
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Powdercoat....and have your wheels snap at some point.
Never, been running them for years.
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Theyve been repaired before..not very well by the looks of it..so cant really make them worse.

Nice one neil..

Do you still need laquer on a solid colour?? Thought it was only metalics that need laquer..
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You don't really need a lacquer on a solid colour but it will help resist chipping more than paint.
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Because i want to...been repaired before..not very well by the looks of it..so cant really make them worse.

Nice one neil..

Do you still need laquer on a solid colour?? Thought it was only metalics that need laquer..
not to sure on that mate i used it to stop it getting chipped if your goin to paint black chips are goin to notice i recon the colour uve got is tidy mate! why not try somthing nutty like a luminous orange lol im thinking of doin a set of rims the 350z bronze which i think would look smart but do a gunmetal first to dull the bronze down!
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Powder Coating involves re-heating an alloys that that already been heated, if the temp goes over 200, which is needed, the alloy, not just wheels, anything this applies too, becomes brittle from the inside and starts to crack.

The mixture of the alloy has to be an exact formulae, magnesium and silicon, for it not to crack. Can you guarantee they your wheels are made this way?
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A word of caution regarding the powder coating of aluminum.

Forged alloy wheels are desirable because they are known to be both strong and lightweight. To achieve these characteristics, they are typically manufactured from 6061-T6 grade aluminum. At some time during the manufacturing process this alloy must undergo a two-step thermal process in order for it to attain the desired mechanical properties, which include high strength and resistance to fatigue. These thermal processing or heat treating steps are known as solution treatment (985°F) and artificial aging (350°F). With forged 6061 aluminum, the artificial aging step requires the material to be held at 350°F for about 8 hours.

The majority of powder coating materials require a cure temperature ranging from 300 to 400°F with a cure time of about 1 hour. Since this overlaps the temperature of the artificial aging step, the powder coating process has the potential to "overage" the aluminum causing embrittlement and reduced fatigue life.

Recent advances in powder coating compounds have brought about lower cure temperatures of 250°F. These new powder coating compounds are more desirable, since they do not impact the prior thermal processing steps for heat treatable alloys such as 6061-T6 aluminum.

When considering powder coating of heat treatable aluminum alloys (6000 and 7000 series), it is always advisable to confirm that the temperature of the part will not exceed 300°F. Ignoring this fact may result in a sudden and unexpected failure of a critical component. A critical failure in a forged alloy wheel could ruin not just one, but possibly the rest of your days.

Before allowing someone to powder coat your forged aluminum wheels, ask them to use a lower cure temperature (250°F) compound and to maintain the temperature below 300°F at all times while they are processing your wheels.

Additional reading: http://my.execpc.com/~davewrit/Powder.html
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iv noticed alot of people doing diy jobs on there wheels so think im going to have a go soon.. bit of a dab hand with can so fingers crossed,may go to gloss black.... maybe... any way was after general advice on what paints primers and and techniques is everyone using,or prefer, when doing there wheels, ill be taking the tyres off to do this aswell. thanks
WR1 on PH today with dark wheels?

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WR1 on PH today with dark wheels?

bang tidy nice one mate!
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its either this or a white set of rotors........cant decide
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Which Rota's? Some stretch and poke action?
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Dark wheels, can't see white working on the WR1 really....
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Which Rota's? Some stretch and poke action?
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Dark wheels, can't see white working on the WR1 really....
mixed thoughts.can anyone get a bit of photo shop action on the go for me,pretty please, bit simple with a computer,unless its grot.
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Big"E" tried white wheels once, looked proper ****e!

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yeah its definetly had a mixed opinion.
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