SES Trackday, Brands Hatch Indy Circuit - Monday 5th August

[Steve_PPP]

I've had a few queries about when we were going to organise another Brands trackday as its been a while (over 2 years!) since our last one there. So, here it is folks!

Dates at Brands Hatch are very limited unless you want to spend several hundred quid for a full day session, so this is the best option - and its the only evening like this that I can see available for the next few months. There are two types of session on the same evening.

Option 1 - Up to 3 x 20 minute TASTER SESSIONS
- A 20 minute session, starting with a couple of laps behind a pace car to get a feel for the circuit.
- These sessions are aimed at trackday newbies/novices. You can only book onto the taster sessions if you have done a maximum of 3 trackdays before.
- £25 per session, book either 1, 2 or 3 depending on how much you want to do.
- http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car-home...productid=2000 (please don't click on the RCZ sessions )

Option 2 - 4 x 20 minute STANDARD SESSIONS
- 4 sessions spread across the evening. All class/experience of drivers allowed.
- Cars must still be road legal, no slicks.
- £99 for the evening.
- http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car-home...pe=roadcaronly

All sessions are limited to 102db.

The great thing about an evening like this is that everyone from the club can get down to Brands for some fun on the same evening. The sessions alternate so novices can go on track, then let the car cool down whilst the other sessions go out on circuit.

All bookings are to be made direct via the ClubMSV website, on a first come, first served basis. Each session is normally limited to 20 cars. Please add your names to the lists below for what you want to do, and add '(Booked)' to your name when you have paid. This really is a great way of getting your scoob out on track and having a bit of fun without spending a fortune Please add yourself to the lists below for what you want to do, and hopefully we'll get a good group together for the evening

[Steve_PPP]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1.
2.
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1.
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1.
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2.
3.
4.
5.

[SpecB]

Balls, even though its the school hols I'm running a course at the Yacht Club.

[majorscooby]

I quite fancy this but need my exhaust Db measured before I put my name down.

[Scooby_Greg]

Option 2 for me! I will add myself when I'm hone later.
Thanks for organising Steve!

[SamSTI]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2.
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1.
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1.
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3.
4.
5.

If the other sessions in option 1 don't get filled, I will do all three.

Thanks for organising Steve.

[Lucky]

Damn, Damn, Damn, I am away then

[Bytes]

Very interested in the taster sessions! I'll check the times & dates re work.... How would I go about getting the exhaust db tested?

[Ginola]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2. Ginola
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3.
4.
5.

I Will check with handbrake tonight if I'm allowed and book at the weekend

Thanks for organising Steve.

[555_Si]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2. Ginola
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4.
5.

[Anger]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2. Ginola
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si
4. Anger
5.

[555_Si]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2. Ginola
3.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola
2.
3.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.

[Steve_PPP]

Some good interest already I expect Moley will be interested too as was chatting to him about doing a Brands session when i was on the phone to him last time.

I'll give Brands a call later to find out how full the sessions currently are and whether we need to rush bookings to get it.

Originally Posted by SamSTI

If the other sessions in option 1 don't get filled, I will do all three.

Sam,

There's not a 3 place limit on each taster session, that just all I put in the post at the time - you can do all 3 if you want. The sessions are limited to 20 cars in total, but other clubs/individuals can obviously book into them too via the Brands Hatch website.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Damn, Damn, Damn, I am away then

Originally Posted by BlueBugEye

Balls, even though its the school hols I'm running a course at the Yacht Club.

Thats a shame guys. Unfortunately these mixed session evenings don't crop up often so there's no other date options.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Thats a shame guys. Unfortunately these mixed session evenings don't crop up often so there's no other date options.

I know mate. Just bad timing on my side.

[Scott.T]

Would like to go but I'm also away in the Peak's that week.
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.
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Just watching to see all the names shuffle around once "E" select's his session/sessions

[Ginola]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2.
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2.
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.
6.

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Sam,

There's not a 3 place limit on each taster session, that just all I put in the post at the time - you can do all 3 if you want. The sessions are limited to 20 cars in total, but other clubs/individuals can obviously book into them too via the Brands Hatch website.

Cheers Steve, it would of helped if I read the first post all the way through lol.

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.
6.

[Anger]

My cars off to EngineTuner in 2 weeks to be made quieter, lets hope it makes the DB limit

[Steve_PPP]

Hopefully so, at least its a 102db event - a lot of their event sessions are 98!

[Steve_PPP]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.
6.

[Bytes]

I've just spoken to the previous owner of my Type R and, although he never had it tested, he doesn't think it will pass the 102db noise test

Any suggestions? As above, how do I go about getting it tested as I don't want to pay in advance and get turned away because the exhaust is too loud

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Bytes

I've just spoken to the previous owner of my Type R and, although he never had it tested, he doesn't think it will pass the 102db noise test

Any suggestions? As above, how do I go about getting it tested as I don't want to pay in advance and get turned away because the exhaust is too loud

What exhaust have you got mate?? any cats?? resonated or de-resonated sections??

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Bytes

I've just spoken to the previous owner of my Type R and, although he never had it tested, he doesn't think it will pass the 102db noise test

Any suggestions? As above, how do I go about getting it tested as I don't want to pay in advance and get turned away because the exhaust is too loud

If its a oe style flange on the rear box there may be a ppp box in circulation to boz.

[Bytes]

Kakimoto GT 1.0z Titanium Exhaust. No cat.

[Bytes]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

If its a oe style flange on the rear box there may be a ppp box in circulation to boz.

Sorry, I haven't a clue what you just said

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Bytes

Kakimoto GT 1.0z Titanium Exhaust. No cat.

I'm no exhaust expert but I don't think it would pass. I've got an afterburner tail pipe, de-resonated center section with two cats, hopefully I should just pass lol.

With regards to where to get it tested, isn't db testing part of the mot?? so any mot tester could check (I could be wrong though)

[Anger]

I have the same Kakimoto on the Evo... I'm taking it off

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Bytes

Sorry, I haven't a clue what you just said

He means if you've got a standard 2.5" flange where the backbox meets the centre section, there might be a prodrive backbox floating around that you could borrow. Would bring the noise down to well under 102db

Originally Posted by SamSTI

I'm no exhaust expert but I don't think it would pass. I've got an afterburner tail pipe, de-resonated center section with two cats, hopefully I should just pass lol.

With regards to where to get it tested, isn't db testing part of the mot?? so any mot tester could check (I could be wrong though)

Afaik, although noise is a consideration for MOT, they don't test for it. Its just whether the tester deems it to be 'excessively' loud i think?

Noise testing is a bit random though. With my current setup, i've been tested at Goodwood at 101db, 97db and 95db. At Brands i've been tested twice and the readings were different again (both times in the 90's). Looking at the exhaust in the photo, i doubt it would pass though....

[555_Si]

take a trip to a track day and ask them if they would test you as you are thinking of doing one.

[Ginola]

Where abouts do you live? If you live near a circuit you can pop down during the day and they will test it for you, alternatively you can get a very good idea with an spl meter app on an iPhone + a friend sitting in the car holding the revs steady at about 4700/5400 rpm, measure about 1 metre from the exhaust and at 45 degrees above or to the side. Had results within 2db of calibrated proper kit

[Bytes]

I live in Orpington, so Brands Hatch isn't too far away. I'll ask at my local garage as I know them. SPL meter app may also be possible.

As for the standard 2.5" flange, I'm not sure about that, but I don't think it oscillates

Thanks for the suggestions guys

[Charlie]

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.Charlie
6.

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Bytes

Sorry, I haven't a clue what you just said

The back box is slip jointed, so you will need a decat back exhaust for track days

[555_Si]

not sure I want to be in same session as Steve if it is raining! lol.

[Hongkongfooi]

I'm working but may be able to spectate later in evening

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Wagon_Si

not sure I want to be in same session as Steve if it is raining! lol.

lol, don't know what you mean

[Scooby_Greg]

All booked - not sure if I'm going to be able to keep up with the scoobs with only 160bhp!

[Steve_PPP]

Not using the M3? Still, fair bit less weight in the Elise though

Is it still standard or have you been tinkering with that too?

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

All booked - not sure if I'm going to be able to keep up with the scoobs with only 160bhp!

I'm sure you'll give it your best shot!.

[Bolesroor]

Not sure about work at the moment but will be along at some time to spectate and get the tea`s in

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Not sure about work at the moment but will be along at some time to spectate and get the tea`s in

Ill be there to spectate probably and ill try and get the exhaust db tested while I'm there too for future Ses events.

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Ill be there to spectate probably and ill try and get the exhaust db tested while I'm there too for future Ses events.

Cool Rich, we can both get the tea`s in

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Cool Rich, we can both get the tea`s in

You should do a taster session...

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

Cool Rich, we can both get the tea`s in

we shall provide refreshments and just polish ours in the pit garages! Lol

[Steve_PPP]

Sure there'll be the option for the odd passenger ride too for some of the spectators if they bring a bash hat

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Sure there'll be the option for the odd passenger ride too for some of the spectators if they bring a bash hat

Ill happily chip in the cost of some track time or fuel for a passenger ride, ill bring my hat and see how the eve pans out.

Can highly recommend a trip out with Steve after I experienced a passenger ride at goodwood.

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Not using the M3? Still, fair bit less weight in the Elise though

Is it still standard or have you been tinkering with that too?

standard power but some brake and suspension tinkering Feels very slow though!

[Anger]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Ill happily chip in the cost of some track time or fuel for a passenger ride, ill bring my hat and see how the eve pans out.

Can highly recommend a trip out with Steve after I experienced a passenger ride at goodwood.

Jump in the Evo if you want Rich

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

standard power but some brake and suspension tinkering Feels very slow though!

Give me ride! Please mister

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Anger

Jump in the Evo if you want Rich

I most certainly will James if the chance is there, never been in a properly sorted Evo. Just let us know what you want towards fuel etc.

[555_Si]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Ill happily chip in the cost of some track time or fuel for a passenger ride, ill bring my hat and see how the eve pans out.

Can highly recommend a trip out with Steve after I experienced a passenger ride at goodwood.

You should try Nurburgring then in damp conditions with him, i'll let the others describe the look on my face when i got out of the car!


passengers need a £10 pass, you'll welcome to jump in with me, though don't expect a fast lap.

[Steve_PPP]

Don't know what all the fuss is about

Originally Posted by Wagon_Si

passengers need a £10 pass, you'll welcome to jump in with me, though don't expect a fast lap.

Yep, but other drivers can become passengers for free if they're not out in their own session as well. So anyone in the novice sessions could jump in with someone in the regular sessions for no cost

[Scooby_Greg]

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg - Booked
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger
5.Charlie
6.

Thanks Sam for adding me to the list

[Anger]

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3.
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg - Booked
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger - Booked
5.Charlie

[SamSTI]

Does anybody now if you can video your laps at brands??

[Anger]

Yeah you can

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Anger

Yeah you can

Excellent!! cheers mate.

[Moley_WRX]

I've been told no time off at all in August, but will work on it.

Really fancy doing this.

[Bolesroor]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

we shall provide refreshments and just polish ours in the pit garages! Lol

[555_Si]

White Coffee, one sugar please.

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by SamSTI

Does anybody now if you can video your laps at brands??

When I was there earlier in the year they would only allow cameras that were mechanically fitted to the car and wouldn't allow mounts that were stuck on or suckered on in the car. They weren't allowing any externally mounted cameras at all.

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

When I was there earlier in the year they would only allow cameras that were mechanically fitted to the car and wouldn't allow mounts that were stuck on or suckered on in the car. They weren't allowing any externally mounted cameras at all.

Thanks Greg.

The only reason I ask is because my old mans coming and wanted to use a hand held recorder, I know this won't be as good as a mounted camera but we thought it might be a laugh as its my first track experience lol.

Do you reckon these will be allowed??

[555_Si]

Pretty sure they are not allowed.

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Wagon_Si

Pretty sure they are not allowed.

Ok thanks Simon.

[BIG"E"]

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg - Booked
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger - Booked
5.Charlie

[BIG"E"]

Re cameras etc.

Gopro's etc can be used but,

They must be fixed with cable ties and not to rely on purely suction mounts..

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

Re cameras etc.

Gopro's etc can be used but,

They must be fixed with cable ties and not to rely on purely suction mounts..

They were getting you to remove them as they checked the car on the pit lane. Everything was asked to be removed unless it was bolted in. It could be they were be tighter that day for some reason?

[BIG"E"]

If anyone else would like to join in, please do it is good fun.

This is not a race session,

It is meant to be as per the title a "Taster Session"

IF you book now and mention SES. you will save 10% !!


Come on you and use your scoobs.

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Bolesroor

As no car I can help with the tea

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

As no car I can help with the tea

Dont do it.!!!!!

Get yourself on the list and have some fun I promise not to overtake you again..

[Red Baron]

Still thinking about this one, Does anyone know what time would I have to be there if I was doing a taster session?

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Still thinking about this one, Does anyone know what time would I have to be there if I was doing a taster session?

3.30 for sessions before 5.40

4.30 for sessions 6.20 onwards..

Full details here:

http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car-home...productid=2000

Don't forget 10% discount

[Red Baron]

Damn it, out of annual leave and I'd never get there in time, may come along and watch though.

[Charlie]

Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg - Booked
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger - Booked
5.Charlie - booked

[Scooby Hoo?]

Live just round the corner so it would be rude not to come and see.

[Steve_PPP]

Originally Posted by Scooby Hoo?

Live just round the corner so it would be rude not to come and see.

More than welcome

Looking like a good group now, nice one chaps

[Bytes]

I'm off to Brands this afternoon to get the exhaust noise tested... fingers crossed

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Bytes

I'm off to Brands this afternoon to get the exhaust noise tested... fingers crossed

Need to do that myself, can you just turn up and get it done or do you have to book and pay??

[BIG"E"]

Originally Posted by Hongkongfooi

As no car I can help with the tea

You have scoob now...

[Anger]

Originally Posted by majorscooby

Need to do that myself, can you just turn up and get it done or do you have to book and pay??

Just turn up and get it tested

[majorscooby]

Originally Posted by Anger

Just turn up and get it tested

May try this weekend if I get a bit of free time. Cheers James.

[Bytes]

Anyone got any cotton wool

I just failed the noise test quite emphatically with a reading of 113.4db

You can just turn up when there's an event on and get a free noise test.

Guess I'll be spectating on the 5th or helping with the tea & coffee

[Hongkongfooi]

Originally Posted by Bytes

Anyone got any cotton wool

I just failed the noise test quite emphatically with a reading of 113.4db

You can just turn up when there's an event on and get a free noise test.

Guess I'll be spectating on the 5th or helping with the tea & coffee

You noisey git

[555_Si]

that's loud, i'd be worried about my hearing driving that around.

[Bytes]

Sorry, can you speak up

The positive news from the day was that I was able to visit Neil at Slowboy racing. Good to meet him and have a quick chat about the car. No doubt I'll be back there very soon to get the exhaust changed

[Scooby_Greg]

That's REALLY loud!

[Steve_PPP]

Blimey, 113db!? Good effort

Making me wonder about mine now, it passed last time with the same backbox but its got louder since the decat.....

[SamSTI]

Originally Posted by Steve_PPP

Making me wonder about mine now

+1 might have to get mine checked just to be on safe side, I'd hate to get turned away.

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by BIG"E"

If anyone else would like to join in, please do it is good fun.

This is not a race session,

It is meant to be as per the title a "Taster Session"

IF you book now and mention SES. you will save 10% !!


Come on you and use your scoobs.

Would like to go, but away on Hols until 10th Aug.

[Scott.T]

Been offered Full day at Goodwood on Tuesday 13th August.
I have had to decline on behalf of SES, as we already have Brands on the go.
If anyone is interested it's £180 for the day and I can give you contact details.

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Been offered Full day at Goodwood on Tuesday 13th August.
I have had to decline on behalf of SES, as we already have Brands on the go.
If anyone is interested it's £180 for the day and I can give you contact details.

Yes please Scott - I guess it's not a Goodwood organised event at that price

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

Been offered Full day at Goodwood on Tuesday 13th August.
I have had to decline on behalf of SES, as we already have Brands on the go.
If anyone is interested it's £180 for the day and I can give you contact details.

Might be interested too, funds allowing

EDIT scrap that cant get the time of work :S

[Scott.T]

Originally Posted by Scooby_Greg

Yes please Scott - I guess it's not a Goodwood organised event at that price

Hi Greg, it's organised by the TVR club again on 'Tuesday' 13th August.
I will PM you contact details

[555_Si]

hmm temppted by Goodwood, lets see if I can enough petrol tokens,

[Steve_PPP]

Any more takers for Brands Hatch? Track time from only £25 per session....

Option 1 - Taster Sessions, £25 each

Session 1 - 17:40
Session 1 - 17:40
1. SamSTI - Booked
2. Ginola - Booked
3.
4.

Session 2 - 18:20
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Session 3 - 19:00
1. Ginola - Booked
2. SamSTI - Booked
3. BIG"E" - Booked
4.

Option 2 - Full evening of 4 x 20 minute sessions (not for newbies)
1. Steve_PPP - Booked
2. Scooby Greg - Booked
3. Wagon_Si - Booked
4. Anger - Booked
5. Charlie - booked

[Moley_WRX]

Still struggling to get the time off work

[Ginola]

Originally Posted by Moley_WRX

Still struggling to get the time off work

"Oh my stomach, I don't think I can make it in today.."


Do it Gary!!

[Scooby_Greg]

Originally Posted by Moley_WRX

Still struggling to get the time off work

Hi mate,
You do quite a bit of business with the company I work for - can't you say it's a corporate event and you're doing it for business

[Moley_WRX]

I might have try try both those ideas, lol