Ferarri what a bunch of cheating b******s

[Scottie :)]

Cant beleive they are still all denying the allegations. It was sooo obvious.

Shame really was a good race till that.

Anyway rant over

[belliott]

and its a shame that ferrari are bigger than the FIA, we shall wait and see who else tries it now then as it would be a bit of a double standard to charge them any different but they probably will.

[Justin]

Well a £100,000 fine and a case referred to next meeting in September

Hopefully the punishment will be deduction of a few points for Alonso so that he only gets 2nd place points - and also 0 constructors points from that race

Originally Posted by belliott

and its a shame that ferrari are bigger than the FIA.

[Chunk]

When i heard there was cheating in the Gran Prix, i instantly thought of Ferrari. I was right

[Lucky]

It cheats us all out of a proper result. If alonso does win the title now, even he must have in the back of his mind he was 'helped'. If he is that good, then he should be abe to pass Massa fair and square. It seems he can just get up behind anyone and then gets stright on the radio for a rant. Never heard schuey, senna, Mansell and the like ask if the chap in front would mind awefully moving over.

[Claire_PPP]

Originally Posted by Lucky

If alonso does win the title now, even he must have in the back of his mind he was 'helped'.

I dunno... Alonso doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to loose any sleep over it!

And a 100k fine is really going to upset Ferrari, isn't it! The chief exec could probably loose that out of his trouser pocket and not notice!

[DukeBoy]

Not an F1 fan but you can't just blame Ferrari for cheating......there all at it!!!
Just ban pit to car radio simple, and let the drivers do the job they are there for rather than taking instructions from the pricks on the other end.

Don't get these dirty tactics in two wheel racing!!!

[Skullfudge]

Ferrari should never been underestimated as a HUGELY powerful sector in Formula One.

Don't read me wrong here as I absolutely agree that Ferrari breached the rules..........BUT they were very clever.

There were no team orders to either driver when you think about it.
Massa was not informed to pull over.
Alonso was not informed to pass.

It was nothing more than a subtle hint that both driver read, and this is why they only had a small fine.

If it were Mclaren, the fine would have included a few more digits, but it was Ferrari.

The only team that have competed in every GP since the 1950.
The only team that has always built it's own engine.
Over 1000 GP points more than there nearest rival (Mclaren).
400 GP' starts more than any other team.
Over 200 GP wins
Over 200 Poles
Biggest fan base on the planet.

They are BIG fish in the F1 world!

[bigemp]

they should have made an example of them and reversed the decision with massa winning and alonso second perhaps that would stop it from happening in the future the fia changed the rules now they should uphold them, otherwise its just a joke to the fans,alonso wasnt quick enough to get buy massa tough f**cking ****,vettel and weber race against each other(but then they normally crash as well though lol),hamilton and button always keep it clean when racing together.

[Scottie :)]

Originally Posted by Skullfudge

Ferrari should never been underestimated as a HUGELY powerful sector in Formula One.

Don't read me wrong here as I absolutely agree that Ferrari breached the rules..........BUT they were very clever.

There were no team orders to either driver when you think about it.
Massa was not informed to pull over.
Alonso was not informed to pass.

It was nothing more than a subtle hint that both driver read, and this is why they only had a small fine.

If it were Mclaren, the fine would have included a few more digits, but it was Ferrari.

The only team that have competed in every GP since the 1950.
The only team that has always built it's own engine.
Over 1000 GP points more than there nearest rival (Mclaren).
400 GP' starts more than any other team.
Over 200 GP wins
Over 200 Poles
Biggest fan base on the planet.

They are BIG fish in the F1 world!

Skullfudge i do agree with what your saying!.......... but it wasnt that clever it was obvious. if it was me i would have told massa to put the fuel reserve on so alonso gradually went passed not as obvious as it was shown!

They are above the rules but if it didnt happen then we wouldnt have anything to rant about lol

over and out

[Chunk]

I think they should be able to pass and have team orders. End of the day, there are individual drivers, but they are racing for a TEAM. I'm sure the team gets more money if they have the championship winner.

it's all about the money in the end