[Tomma]

I fitted some 4 point harnesses and a harness bar 2 weeks ago, i had hook fixings instead of bolt fixings (easy removal) which i've managed to hook onto the rear seatbelt fixing points under the back seat but as the chaps have said above, they fit but not as good as they could be (angle from fixing points to shoulders doesn't look ideal) and the harness bar in an accident for back seat passengers would probably feel like getting hit in the face with a sledge hammer!!

i'll try and find the link i had for instructuctions, it basically says the shoulder straps need to come out horizontally across a harness bar or roll cage because if you fix them straight down to the front or rear seats you'll break your neck in an accident as your head will be the only bit that moves! it also said that if you have just a harness bar and no cage and are harnessed in if your car rolled, the roof could cave in and crush you as regular seat belts allow some body movement from side to side.

I'm trying to remember why i fitted them now.......!!!