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scooby999 08-03-2011 10:04 AM

hatches????!!!!
 
Why are the hatches so disliked in the Subaru community????

I have to admit I quite like them.....:getmecoat:

admin 08-03-2011 10:18 AM

Think its got something to do with it being so different:nod: from the classic, although they have gotten bigger, the basic saloon shape has stayed. Makes for easier transition because its easier to see the much loved shape within the newer cars.

Also think part of it is down to the hatch not living up to many enthusiasts expectations. We were all wanting more from it, from the moment it was announced, everyone was thinking it would be a game changer! didn't happen:nono:

That said, I too have a liking for the hatch now:whistle: since people have started modifying/enhancing them, there are some excellent examples floating about.......

just my opinion:five:

worzel 08-03-2011 10:19 AM

I think it was just so far removed from what we are used to that alienated a lot of people to them.

They have grown on me, slowly but surely. Especially when I saw one at Surrey Rolling Road (DaveP I think) That just looked the nuts, I saw them in a different light after that. I think you need to look around a good one in the flesh to reall appreciate it.

Having heard people who have driven them give glowing reports, maybe we are really missing a trick?

I think one other problem is that they are not in the hands of enough entusiasts yet, the arrival of the Hatch coincided with a downturn in the economy. Give it another couple of years and I think we will see more and more of them. :ok:

Anger 08-03-2011 10:21 AM

Ive always liked them... Just not the problems the uk cars have

666subaru 08-03-2011 10:25 AM

Remember myself and Shaz watching a STI going through dartford tunnel and then looking at Petes (ExhaustUK's owner project car for subaru UK) and they are growing on us.:doubleup:

tbtstt 08-03-2011 10:53 AM

I think Worzel has pretty much echoed my thoughts on the hatch. They did make quite a radical change in direction with the hatch and it was hard to take in at first. There isn't a lot of them about though and, as Anger said, the problems that have plagued those that are on the roads haven't helped build their image...

...looking at cars like Dave P's hatch though, with just a few minor cosmetic tweaks the hatch looks far better. Seeing a few of them being thrown around on various rallies has helped then grow on me as well! ;)

Its funny but, when I first saw the new sedan alongside the hatch, I was actually favouring the hatch...

scooby999 08-03-2011 11:11 AM

I wonder how long it will take people to start like the convertible?

andy-m 08-03-2011 12:47 PM

I dont like the hatch look but if i could afford a new scoob, the hatch itself wouldnt put me off, but I realy dont like the bonnet scoop either.

erm, if a chick is nice from the back but not the front, you have options. if she's ugly both back and front, wot do u do????
:|

tbtstt 08-03-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby999 (Post 77998)
I wonder how long it will take people to start like the convertible?

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/i...areygaggj9.gif

Nige 08-03-2011 01:39 PM

erm, if a chick is nice from the back but not the front, you have options. if she's ugly both back and front, wot do u do????
:|[/QUOTE]
:lol: :doubleup:
What a sack of money Subaru lost with this car. It didn't sell, it didn't win anything, It kept going BANG or didn't go at all. It stole it's name from world rally cars. Impreza more like imposter! Scrap it start again :drive:

Anger 08-03-2011 01:51 PM

Not one jdm has gone pop and there popular in America and there market is massive to over here

Nige 08-03-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78032)
Not one jdm has gone pop and there popular in America and there market is massive to over here

It's still ugly as fook though. Being the 2.0 litre has the stronger engine. The hawk didnt suffer from so many engine failures as a 2.5 litre. Have Subaru admited to why so many ugly's did? Was it cheaper materials used for the EU? It just seems that Subaru lost interest & many people had to fight to get there engines replaced. One guy missed a minor oil filter service & when his engine went BANG Subaru refused to entertain him. Nightmare cars hate them with a passion. Impreza Imposter. :drive:

tbtstt 08-03-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 78029)
It didn't sell, it didn't win anything, It kept going BANG or didn't go at all. It stole it's name from world rally cars. Impreza more like imposter! Scrap it start again :drive:

Actually the hatchback has been very successful as a Group N machine - and Subaru Japan still runs a programme for rally support; unlike a certain manufacturer that abandoned most of its factory-backed rally programmes for the X... :p

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 78029)
Have Subaru admited to why so many ugly's did? Was it cheaper materials used for the EU?

Didn't they switch to non-forged engines for the EU hatchback? (Could be completely wrong here - I await the comments of someone in the know :))

Chunk 08-03-2011 03:29 PM

WRX and non-turbo hatches look like a Vauxhall Astra or Mazda 3

I like the fat arched STI's

RobEvo5 08-03-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 78029)
erm, if a chick is nice from the back but not the front, you have options. if she's ugly both back and front, wot do u do????
:|

:lol: :doubleup:
What a sack of money Subaru lost with this car. It didn't sell, it didn't win anything, It kept going BANG or didn't go at all. It stole it's name from world rally cars. Impreza more like imposter! Scrap it start again :drive:[/QUOTE]

So you don't like them then :D


Personally I think they are now looking smart, nice and small, practicalility of a Hatch. And look like a pocket rocket should.

Granted do something with the rear lights, put a larger set of wheels on that actually fill the arches, front lip and a few other bits an bobs and they would look a very sorted motor. And although not been in one, would imagine they are a very nice place to be. Shame about the possibly weaker engines, but get a private warranty from warranty wise for £450 and job done.

and p.s The classic was the proper, first, last and definative scoob ;)

Nige 08-03-2011 04:49 PM

Your right the classic was the 1st & the newage carried that winning streak on beating every other car in the world.
So wtf has the ugly done to deserve the impreza name?..........a big fat nothing.
It has the most warraty claim's of any car since the calibra turbo.
Fact its soooooooooo fooking ugly. In fact you could make money out of it by getting one now then locking it up for 20years [as you couldnt drive it just in case it blew up] or so. Then open it up to public viewing for a £1 a look. Mr Merwick made his money. Why not the ugly. Impreza not Imposter

Steve_PPP 08-03-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tbtstt (Post 78039)
Actually the hatchback has been very successful as a Group N machine - and Subaru Japan still runs a programme for rally support;

So do Prodrive :ok:

Anger 08-03-2011 06:35 PM

I'd have one like this

http://media.ziptied.com/members/fil...s1.22.1jpg.jpg

andy-m 08-03-2011 06:43 PM

lose the daniella westbrook nose n so would i

Nige 08-03-2011 06:48 PM

Seat! but ugly'r with a grill. :sadno:

RobEvo5 08-03-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78069)

Thats the dogs and spot on.:doubleup: Thats what I'm talk'n about.....

Thats even giving me idea's myself now about future direction.:D

Anger 08-03-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 78074)
Seat! but ugly'r with a grill. :sadno:

What i'll ge getting next :D

Nige 08-03-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78077)
What i'll ge getting next :D

What the ugly or the Seat?

Nige 08-03-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RobEvo5 (Post 78076)
Thats the dogs and spot on.:doubleup: Thats what I'm talk'n about.....

Thats even giving me idea's myself now about future direction.:D

Please get one Rob i like a laugh on my way to work. Oh & when i come home as it will be in the same place {bang} :lol::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::ro fl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl ::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I now know why we have the Scooby PIG its to commemorate that ugly. See i'm laughing already :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rof l::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

AndyWRX 08-03-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78069)

Does look rather tasty :-)

ralliart didz 08-03-2011 07:58 PM

[QUOTE if a chick is nice from the back but not the front, you have options. if she's ugly both back and front, wot do u do????
:|[/QUOTE]put a pillow on it and think of england :mrgreen:

i dont like the hatch as it looks like the run of the mill shopping car

Nige 08-03-2011 08:49 PM

The Evo X is doing well in group N. It also has a history going back to dominating the world rally scene same as the Scoob classic & new age. The ugly has none of that & in my opinion lets Subaru down as proberly in fact most defiantly the most unreliable car Subaru has made for the UK.

DukeBoy 08-03-2011 08:59 PM

And of course the Evo X is a really good looking car isn't it.......NOT!!!

Anger 09-03-2011 03:15 AM

Isnt the hatch last years British Rally champion, Keith Cronin drove a red TEG motorsport one to beat Jrm's Evo X's didnt he

Chunk 09-03-2011 08:44 AM

I thought i saw an Impreza hatch this morning, but it was an Astra.

Give it a couple of years when more people have played with the styling and they might be good

Mortster 09-03-2011 08:48 AM

I keep saying it, get over and look at Wrongfitmentcrew webby, some rather nice hatches over there, and their already modding the new real version with the boot.

worzel 09-03-2011 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78069)

Yep :agreed:

Nige, sorry mate, but even you can't say this one looks bad. :nono:

As Chunk said, give it a couple of years of people fettling with them over here and they will start looking like this as a rule.

tbtstt 09-03-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78124)
Isnt the hatch last years British Rally champion, Keith Cronin drove a red TEG motorsport one to beat Jrm's Evo X's didnt he

Yes indeedy! :doubleup: The hatch Impreza has taken the PWRC and Middle Eastern Championship titles a fair few times in the last couple of years.

I agree that the standard hatch looks very Astra like, but then the standard classic Impreza looks like a Corolla. And the standard Lancer looks like any Japanese 4 door box. Its the STi/Evo models where the comparison should be drawn (in my opinion) and, out of the box, the STi hatch didn't look great, but with a few minor tweaks (grill, mirrors etc.), I thought the UK hatch looked much improved.

Nige 09-03-2011 02:00 PM

How long has the Evo X been in group N for as a comparison to the ugly. Give it a chance. I agree Duke it's not the best looking. Come on compared to the ugly. I think you will have to say the X takes that one. :drive:

Anger 09-03-2011 02:31 PM

Evo looks like a volvo... Old people drive Volvos... Oh wait a minute ;)

worzel 09-03-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78210)
Evo looks like a volvo... Old people drive Volvos... Oh wait a minute ;)

PMSL :lol:

AndyWRX 09-03-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anger (Post 78210)
Evo looks like a volvo... Old people drive Volvos... Oh wait a minute ;)

lol excellent


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