Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Probably not the shortest but I go the idiot proof way so you don't need sat nav and I drive on autopilot so this maybe wrong but...

E40 from Dunkerque all the way to Liege whilst negociating the Brussels ring road (pain the in bum and confusing). From Liege join the E42 following signs for Verviers then Spa-Francorchamps. The E42 takes you into Germany. From there follow signs for Prum then Gerolstein. The Nurburgring is signposted from Gerolstein.

So essentially it's:
E40>E42>Prum>Gerolstein>Nurburg.

Probably the easiest route for those staying with Jackie as coming out of Kelberg, turn right and head to the hotel to check in and dump your bags then back down the hill to Nurburg. It's a 15-20 minute drive from the Wilhelmshohe to Nurburg.

Watch your speed, I was fined €175 for speeding in Belgium and was very close to being banned on the spot.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Dont worry too much about getting there, Tom Tom is spot on, did us proud in recent trip to lille and brugge.
I have got map also now, and a great co driver he will deliver us to our destination, already looking at a couple of possible stop offs for a cuppa on way down.
If people are ok with this, i will post details of route and stop points :doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

On Saturday 30th May, there is an evening track walk if anyone would like to come along. These walks were initially for drivers racing on the Nordschleife however they are now available to the public. When the track shuts at 7:30pm you are taken round to the key sections via mini-bus, you get out and walk these sections with Nordschleife instructors. They talk you through the sections, show you the camber/elevations/surface changes offer advice on how to drive the Nordschleife safely etc. It's 90 minutes, from 7:30-9pm and costs €49. It's sets up nicely for the full day of Touristenfahrten driving on the Sunday. If you like the sounds of this I can sort it all out for you. Maybe even book you a table at the PistenKlause for afterwards for a well earned beer and steak on a stone.

I did one last year, a couple of photos...

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/penfish4/nurburgringjuly0824.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/penfish4/nurburgringjuly0837.jpg[/img]

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Sounds interseting Mark.
Like the idea of the grub and a beer after. :doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Sounds like a stonking idea. We had kind of decided that Saturday night was going to be the "Drink" night. Would be a cracking way to start it off. And we'll get some great photo opportunities.

We are all meeting at a rolling road on Saturday, if anyone hasn't seen this I will bring it up.

Cheers again Mark.

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Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Group photograph in the Karussell 8-)

I can do, saves me cooking when I get home.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Hi Mark,

Out of interest how often do you drive on the RING,

And have you come off at all, or been hit by anyone??

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

I've only done a few hundred laps on trips over the past few years. Only started working here this year and the track is yet to open due to weather/repairs, hopefully get my first laps of 2009 this weekend when it opens. We have a private trackday on Saturday and it's open to the public Sunday.

When the track opens I'll be on it everyday as it's the quickest way to get to the bakery Adenau for lunch :whistle:

Once when I went grass cutting. No, I've never hit or come close to hitting another car. This is very rare.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Ian
Stop worrying mate, you will not enjoy it otherwise.
:doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

The idea of using the Ring to get to the bakers is priceless :yeah:

I get the road through Jarvis Brook, not fair I think :lol:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Very true. You only hear the horror stories, never the safe enjoyable laps.

The same could be said about car thefts, you hear about Impreza's getting stolen all the time but in reality it's a very small percentages.

If I'm available I don't mind giving a few passenger laps, give you a few pointers etc.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Unfortunately the way of the world. The meeting we had the other night was very informal but I think it put a couple of minds at rest.

If you were available to give some assistance that would be much appreciated.

:doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

That would be very much appreciated. :doubleup:

With my history it is slightly different for me.

The last time I was on a track I ended up in the C.C.U. :doh: :whistle:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Dare I ask what happened? PM if you want.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

PM. Sent :doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

I was asked these question earlier and thought I share the answers with you all...

Are helmets required?
No. But I always wear one as do most people I know who are driving quickly. My attitude to wearing a helmet was cemented when I was one of the first on the scene to an accident involving a driver who didn't wear one, 'luckily' the injuries was superficial and he was fine in the end after a few stitches.

Hospitals nearby?
Yes, there's one in Adenau plus bigger ones in Mayen, Koblenz, Cologne, Bonn. The track is very well catered for in case of accidents and emergencies during races. To give you an idea, last year 3 air ambulances landed within 10 minutes of each other on the track, that wouldn't happen in many other villages let alone cities in England.

Kerbs on track?
Some kerbs you can ride, others avoid. It's easy to tell which.

Tyres?
RE070's are my tyre of choice so far. I find that the stronger sidewalls allow me to corner faster i.e. 140mph through the Fuchsrohle if I'm on a quick lap. Tyre life is good too.

R888's, I struggled with the correct track pressures in these. One of the guys from TimeAttack told me his pressures recently so I'll try them next time I get a set. Obviously these tyres have a high rate of wear. I destroyed a set of 4 in one week last summer.

Brakes?
Noobs have a habit of cooking brakes due to lack of circuit knowledge. They go flat out then brake as they are unsure of what corner is next. Start slow and build your speed up. Last year I had the owner of a 500bhp Evo running semi slicks come over to me in the car park asking what I had done to my car as he couldn't keep up... my car was completely standard at the time :lol:

Excuse the quality of the video but the guy driving the MX5 gives you an idea of how little braking is needed if you know the track.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 4832353167

Showing off at Bergwerk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIIaYcx09Q

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

:10:

Thanks for your time mate.

Good advice. :doubleup:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Thanks again for the pointers.

I think most people are starting off with 8 lap tickets, would you suggest at least half of that is used to get a feel for it?

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

All this serious talk is depressing so to lighten the mood...

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/penfish4/motivational/ringsickbag.jpg[/img]


Applicable for all drivers only people's speeds through here differ greatly depending on size of balls. The fast drivers are taking the compression >150mph.


[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/penfish4/motivational/foxhole-1.jpg[/img]

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

I bet that puts your arse firmly into the seat!

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Spin compresion too !

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

I hope this guy bought a lottery ticket after this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_Zc4BGaZU

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

And some clean pants hopefully. :lol:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Now you know why my other car is a ZX. :doubleup: 168,000 and still going.

What a save though. it could only have been the curb that stoped them. :rofl: :rofl:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOu-fhxlreg

Hope this works!

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Ok I take that back. Some one managed to hit a high kerb and roll twice on the slowest corner on the track today :confused:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Oh thats not good, what car?
I trust everyone ok though

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

One of our hire cars and yes both walked out of it, the roll cage did its job.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Thats good..

Mark i have a question from my mate that is coming down with me.

He wants to know if he can hire a performance car for a few laps down there.
Is there such a set up?

Thanks

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Found this now

http://www.rent-racecar.de/gb/

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Yes there are companies that will hire performance cars for the track, we have a M3 CSL, GT3RS and GT3 Cup.

Don't expect it to be cheap and to be able to turn up and drive though. Performance cars like M3's cost 4 figures to hire for the day and have 5 figure excesses if you don't buy additional insurance.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

The new Ring Ticket / lap ticket.

This an Oyster style card that replaces the old paper tickets. From the summer it can also be used to purchase goods as well as tickets.

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/penfish4/Nurburgring/IMG_0220.jpg[/img]

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Cool bit of kit to have in the old wallet too! 8-)

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

I'm waiting for my season ticket through work so had to buy a lap ticket this morning, it's now a €22 drinks coaster on my desk.

No doubt a marketing idea to make people spend more money at NuroDisney :roll:

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

Nurodisney :lol:

Classic.

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

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Only Kidding.....on the 08:00 out an 20:01 back.....

Revised list for the Ring Hogs 2009

1. SilverSurfer+1 (Ferry Booked - Hotel-Wilhelmshoehe 50% deposit paid)
2. Worzel & Laura (Ferry Booked - Hotel-Wilhelmshoehe 50% deposit paid)
3. Nige + son Ferry & hotel booked @ Worzel palace
4.major scooby+mark (Ferry booked - Hotel- Wilhelmshoehe 50% deposit paid)
5.Crowman + Co Driver (Iain) ( Ferry booked and hotel accommodation 50% deposit paid )
6.BIG "E" & son Steve ( Ferry Booked and hotel accommodation 50% paid)
7. Duncan +1 ( Ferry booked and hotel accommodation 50%paid)

Re: SES @ Nurbergring May 29th - June 1st
 

There we are folks, all booked and confirmed! Roll on the ring hogs!

I was talking to Martyn on the way back from the RR. How many people have already got helmets? I haven't for 1!!!

What about getting a group buy on some open face black crash hats with a Bike shop somewhere?

If you fancy this idea, put your name on the list below:

Crash Hats:

1: Worzel