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Dave 09-08-2011 12:15 PM

There was a presence up there from Sussex last night, but all properly trained people. Doubt they would put traffic up there, mind you running a few of them over wouldn't do any harm. Quick hose down and send them out again.

I'm on the inside of these cuts and things aren't nice, there's going to be alot of good people moving on as there is significant salary cuts incoming on the support staff side of things.

Any other country would have officers out there with 3ft batons beating them, while we pussy foot around pandering to the scrotes.

I'll be quiet now.

Mortster 09-08-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeBoy (Post 99677)
Will be keeping my opinions to myself as I don't think they should be posted on an open forum!!! But I bet most of you are thinking along the same lines.

I saw this first hand, I stood behind my window as a gang of youths smashed it. This is what fuels what people are thinking, but arnt allowed to say it, because we're scared of offending people. I wont wont say what race, just yes, they were all the same colour, I couldnt see any other in a sea of 100+ youths. This is where the real issue lies, but the police have their hands tied.

Im getting fed up of people defending their actions now too.

Mortster 09-08-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearo (Post 99693)
look at the police just getting rolled over: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

This is Woolwich, both my stores were completely destroyed, The Game is never going to open again, the Gamestation we cant even get into yet, the damage to the windows and shutter was so extensive.

In all I lost 4 stores ( well not my own, but what I manage ). 2 In Woolwich, Orpington and Croydon Purley Way. The damage done is so bad, the view is we may never may that back on bottom line, so these may stay shut.

thepieman 09-08-2011 12:54 PM

Would like to see Cameron have the balls to go full on at the idiots involved and behind these riots....

Think were all behind the Police , Army etc etc going in with plastic bullets and tear gas etc etc, but how long regardless of the damage, harm and suffering that the idiots involved have caused will it be before theres news footage of the poor individuals hurt by a Policeman?

Been too soft on the criminal element for too long now,,,,,, about time things went back to kids having respect for the law and their own surroundings, if it takes a few people being hit with a rubber bullet to the head, to knock sense into people, then so be it.............

andy-m 09-08-2011 12:54 PM

well, unfortunately I wont be in a possition to do this for 3 years at least, but some time in 2014, i am sticking 2 fingers up to the UK and getting out.
If i had some cash stashed away, I would have gone last night.

i've had enough of everyone coming to our country, leeching off our benefits, all the unemployed who dont want to work (and yes I know theres some that do want to), i'm fed up of all the parents that think its the school's job to teach their kids right n wrong, but then go down the school screaming their heads off defending their chavy scum offspring when they get in trouble with the school, n i'm fed up of getting ars3raped by the f'in tax man n then having the govenment give my hard earned cash away !

the mrs is from the republic of ireland, they dont have this kind of crap over there. guess where i'm gonna be living in 3 yrs time !

Anger 09-08-2011 12:54 PM

T mobile shop opposite mine got done on Sunday night and then had a car put through the front last night

thepieman 09-08-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 99705)
T mobile shop opposite mine got done on Sunday night and then had a car put through the front last night


and hows your business?

worzel 09-08-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 99698)

Any other country would have officers out there with 3ft batons beating them, while we pussy foot around pandering to the scrotes.

:agreed:

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Originally Posted by Mortster (Post 99701)
This is Woolwich, both my stores were completely destroyed, The Game is never going to open again, the Gamestation we cant even get into yet, the damage to the windows and shutter was so extensive.

In all I lost 4 stores ( well not my own, but what I manage ). 2 In Woolwich, Orpington and Croydon Purley Way. The damage done is so bad, the view is we may never may that back on bottom line, so these may stay shut.

Sorry to hear this Nick, that's crappy bloody news. :sadnod:



It's very true that the second you raise the comment about the race or creed of these scrotes, you are tagged as racist. The truth is a scrote is a scrote, these ones just all happen to be of the same ethnic origin. And that is not any old comment, it's plain for all to see on the TV feeds. And now you have got a certain ethnic female MP out saying that they are angry youths and virtually justifying the actions of them, absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

Bearo 09-08-2011 01:24 PM

Its started again :sos:

Bearo 09-08-2011 01:33 PM

purley way shops and apparently its even in redhill now.. wtf!

RobEvo5 09-08-2011 01:46 PM

Apparantly Hastings, prior meadow has been put on high alert tonight.! So it might even be coming further South.

Madness utter madness.! I don't condone violence, but only solution would appear to be a very heavy hand, arrest lots of people and keep them locked up as long as the law will allow..... Slapped wrists, and the nicey,nicey, polically correct approach just won't work on these people.

Skullfudge 09-08-2011 02:07 PM

Time now 2.00pm and just had a phone call.

Maidstone & Rochester are shutting all shops at 3.00pm with many boarding up windows.
Face Book, Twitter and blackberry messaging has been monitored and Police are expecting trouble.

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

Bearo 09-08-2011 02:13 PM

london road in brighton been hit. Expect it in an area near u imo.

Anger 09-08-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thepieman (Post 99706)
and hows your business?

Lucky my shop was one of the few left a long mate... Still feel for a lot of the business's around me that i have known for years

Its organised crime now... Kids dont pull cash machines out of the wall

Bearo 09-08-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 99723)
Its organised crime now... Kids dont pull cash machines out of the wall

Thats it though isnt it. Nearly every criminal in the country is going to work while we all do the opposite! Lock your cars up safe tonight lads!

Mortster 09-08-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 99721)

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

This is my biggest fear now, everyone taking up arms just to protect their property/family.

Steve_PPP 09-08-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearo (Post 99722)
london road in brighton been hit. Expect it in an area near u imo.

Source?

Lots of information flying about, I can only find stuff saying rumours of damage in Brighton are unfounded.

andy-m 09-08-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortster (Post 99725)
This is my biggest fear now, everyone taking up arms just to protect their property/family.

Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that

fieldy 09-08-2011 02:37 PM

just got back from doing a small job in Clapham (Marjorie Grove). on the drive up from brighton i saw cars and shops either burnt or smashed by f*ckers. was just about to leave and got a phone call off a mate of mine who gives me painting and decorating work for Nuffield fitness and leisure. (was Cannons health clubs). he asked if i could pop into Nuffield in Norbury on the way home. bearing in mind that i was only up there a month ago working , i could belive what i saw. the place had been torched last night. most of the downstairs is burnt and soaking wet while the rest of the club is smoked damaged badly. had a chat with the area managers and they cant believe whats happened. this f*cking country is going to hell.......big time.

Bearo 09-08-2011 02:39 PM

People on twitter & facebook saying its kicked off. Local business told to put shutters up by 3pm. Few ppl say works let them go early so they can put shutters up, etc.

I guess probly minor disturbances at the mo but big chance of something happening later by sounds of it.

fieldy 09-08-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andy-m (Post 99727)
Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that

i will protect my family by ALL means if/when the time comes. the old bill cant be everywhere if it kicks off. from what i saw in london today, then if someone wants to try and brake into my place then they will get everything they deserve. its not being a vigilante when you protect your family. so i totally agree with you there mate.

Mortster 09-08-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-m (Post 99727)
Well, I did sleep with a baseball bat & an axe next to my bed last night just in case people decided to do household burglaries as the police were busy dealing with the rioters. Anyone that had got in my house last night wouldnt have got back out again.
and lets face it, we're all gonna protect our homes and our families if it comes to that


Im going to just say it...with a large % of the ofenders being from a ethnic back ground, it only takes one person defending his/her property from a diffrent ethnic back ground to injure/kill, then where in another world of ****.

fieldy 09-08-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortster (Post 99732)
Im going to just say it...with a large % of the ofenders being from a ethnic back ground,

i had noticed that too.

oh and whats the saying , " if you cant do the time, dont do the crime." the time can be meant in many types of ways. if they go out wanting to smash, rob or burn then they should expect to come face to face with some one who will stand up to them.

Anger 09-08-2011 03:09 PM

My Sister has just been told to leave our shop as trouble is on its way

thepieman 09-08-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anger (Post 99734)
My Sister has just been told to leave our shop as trouble is on its way

Hope its just precautionary mate!!

Skullfudge 09-08-2011 03:12 PM

I'm not sure why people are suggesting the army. What can they do?

My company is involved with these issues as we are one of the only Drilling & Sawing Contractors in the UK that have "A Class Vetted Staff" This allows us into any Military, government of Police, building , unit or compound. We are often shadowed by armed police of military and they are never more than 4 Mts away from us.

The army are NOT allowed to carry live munitions other than the rare situations like the Iranian Embassy siege.
Police are the only ones allowed to hold firearms with live munitions in public areas.



They know where trouble is expected as the likes of Twitter Face Book and other social networks are being monitored.

The same social networks now need to be used for the organising of other groups to turn up and start on these fooking idiots.
That's what needs to happen otherwise this could very easily get out of hand.

They are not scared of cops or soldiers running at them with a polycarbonate shield BUT if the likes of Billy Two Holes and Machette Mick were on the scene they would fooking 5hit themselves !

Bearo 09-08-2011 03:19 PM

Only reason i think we need the army is the extra numbers to cover more areas and form a better wall of protection at least!

fieldy 09-08-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 99736)
if the likes of Billy Two Holes and Machette Mick were on the scene they would fooking 5hit themselves !

exactly right mate. its surprising the reaction you get when "two barrels" are visible. i got stopped by 2 old bill when i was out shooting one day. they thourght i had an air rifle, well they had been told i had an air rifle by some "joe public". they wanted to know if i had permission to shoot on this land. their faces were a picture when i turned round with a double barrel 12 bore :-D

Bearo 09-08-2011 03:31 PM

this made me lol

ralliart didz 09-08-2011 03:36 PM

i agree with mortser,country gone 2 pot because we have 2many foreign people coming here and cant handle it.the goverment is to blame and all the greedy bankers only intrested in making money.i dont think the goverment give a toss and more intrested in other countrys.

i also agree with skullfudge and andy as the law system is a joke and they will only do something if they can make money out of crime.

pigSTi 09-08-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by worzel (Post 99673)
Anarchy is the only word that sums it up!

This is not IMHO a government problem, yes they have made swinging cuts which have affected a lot of people, but this would be happening whoever was in charge. Anyone blaming the government for this really ought to get a reality check, because they have obviously lost their minds.

This is purely a class of "British" citizenship with huge personal and cultural issues, lashing out at a weak and hand tied police force and in the name of no cause at all. I'm sorry, but none of these idiots can blame what happened in Tottenham for this, this is mindless violence and grand theft on a huge scale.

These are kids of 14 - 18 years old, with parents who don't give a flying **** what they do or where they are.

It has to be stopped somehow, if the police don't get a grip on this today, even to the point of drafting the army in, then I dread to think what will happen tonight, there will be deaths, but unfortunately they will be from the wrong side of the coin. Get troops mobilized, armed with rubber bullets and riot gear and let them kick the living **** out of these people.


Couldn't have summed it up better. I would swap rubber for live though...

Lucky 09-08-2011 04:12 PM

The news made me laugh this morning. They openly said that this was mainly organised through blackberry messenger, and is still continuing to do so. So why dont Blackberry do the decent thing and 'switch off' for a time.

If these things are being organised through the likes of twitter, facebook and blackberry messenger, then there is yet another reason for them to be closed down, particularly in situations like this. Had these not exsisted, then word could not spread fast enough to organise crime on this level.

pigSTi 09-08-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skullfudge (Post 99721)
Time now 2.00pm and just had a phone call.

Maidstone & Rochester are shutting all shops at 3.00pm with many boarding up windows.
Face Book, Twitter and blackberry messaging has been monitored and Police are expecting trouble.

It sounds stupid but I really do feel like driving to Maidstone tonight with my guys, tooled up, and start hammering the 5hit out of anyone that starts smashing up or igniting shops or cars.

You're not the only one and tbh I kinda hope people do start doing that. At least someone will be doing something, those ****s need putting down, end of. Filthy dirty ****ing little ****s

RobEvo5 09-08-2011 04:32 PM

Morrison's in Hastings Town turned over, and Tesco at Hollington if I can believe what I am being told. Not good.! Glyne Gap could be interesting later tonight.

Also town is blocked off, M&S Smashed in. Morrison is on fire.....

andy-m 09-08-2011 04:40 PM

left work early n just got home.
greenwich, 90% of the shops were closed. same in the bits of lewsham u can drive through.
already the odd group of 3-5 tossers, I mean youths sitting on walls, at bus stops n jst hangin around.
I hope the police with those plastic bullets realy f them up tonight

fieldy 09-08-2011 04:45 PM

the trouble is that 26 other police forces have sent men into london to back up the MET. what happens if it all kicks off in the areas where the force has been weakend.?? could be fun..........

majorscooby 09-08-2011 05:25 PM


By all accounts the looters in Peckham got away with,

some half priced cracked ice and miles and miles of carpet tiles,
tv's, deep freeze, and david bowie LP's,
ball games, gold chains, whassa names, picture frames and leather goods,
some trevor francis track suits from a mush in shepherds bush,
bush bush bush bush bush bush bush!! lol :rofl:

Lucky 09-08-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by majorscooby (Post 99753)
By all accounts the looters in Peckham got away with,

some half priced cracked ice and miles and miles of carpet tiles,
tv's, deep freeze, and david bowie LP's,
ball games, gold chains, whassa names, picture frames and leather goods,
some trevor francis track suits from a mush in shepherds bush,
bush bush bush bush bush bush bush!! lol :rofl:


Classic :rofl:

fieldy 09-08-2011 05:30 PM

excelent :lol:

scooby doo 09-08-2011 05:34 PM

Just drove threw hastings on way home and there isnt anything, morrisons is closed and around 20 officers surrounding the premises but thats it, no damage that i saw..


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